News: Step by Step Guide to Transferring from Wii to Wii U Page 1

JoshSL 09.11.2012#1

Still really wanna know if data from multiple Wiis can be transferred over.. Smilie

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crackedthesky 09.11.2012#2

I find it hard to believe Mii transfer is permanent, considering you can save the little guys to a Wii Remote. Also, why make game saves a permanent move? That seems silly. I can see doing it for WiiWare and VC games, but is there really any downside to letting us have open game saves?

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JayUK 09.11.2012#3

justonesp00lturn said:
I find it hard to believe Mii transfer is permanent, considering you can save the little guys to a Wii Remote. Also, why make game saves a permanent move? That seems silly. I can see doing it for WiiWare and VC games, but is there really any downside to letting us have open game saves?

I think the game saves that have issues are the ones with online play. I don't see why games without multiplayer wouldn't be copy-able though. As for transferring VC and wiiware games, I'm probably gonna do it. I was hoping the interface was gonna be a little nicer. I've just read theres gonna be a seperate channel you have to boot up before you have access to VC games which just seems like a step backwards. I'd like to see it running, to see whether its gonna be a hassle or not. In a perfect world I'd like a separate channel for each game like the 3DS, so its instant.

( Edited 09.11.2012 13:58 by JayUK )

JoshSL 09.11.2012#4

Yeah from what I've heard there's a "Wii Menu" app on the WiiU that basically turns the WiiU into a Wii, you can't use the gamepad, you can't use HD, it's like emulating the Wii exactly without usual emulation perks! I hope they update or make it more seamless because it sounds a bit disappointing.

You can't even run GC games on it man.

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JayUK 09.11.2012#5

SuperLink said:
Yeah from what I've heard there's a "Wii Menu" app on the WiiU that basically turns the WiiU into a Wii, you can't use the gamepad, you can't use HD, it's like emulating the Wii exactly without usual emulation perks! I hope they update or make it more seamless because it sounds a bit disappointing.
You can't even run GC games on it man.

I wasn't really expecting them to be nice enough to give us gamecube game support. Not when they can sell them us as downloadable titles. Smilie The VC stuff is disappointing, I'm just wondering how the eshop is gonna work day one, will it have the Wii's library of VC games or are they gonna start again from scratch.

Azuardo 09.11.2012#6

SuperLink said:
Yeah from what I've heard there's a "Wii Menu" app on the WiiU that basically turns the WiiU into a Wii, you can't use the gamepad, you can't use HD, it's like emulating the Wii exactly without usual emulation perks! I hope they update or make it more seamless because it sounds a bit disappointing.
You can't even run GC games on it man.

Ah, then that sort of confirms what we were discussing in the other news topic about VC games from the Wii. If it does go into this "Wii mode" where you can't use the GamePad at all, then that rules out using it for VC games bought on Wii. So you would need your old remotes, classic pad, etc.

I'm just wondering how the eshop is gonna work day one, will it have the Wii's library of VC games or are they gonna start again from scratch.

If they do continue selling VC games then they may just only be bootable in Wii mode, and come with a notice that they can't be played with the GamePad etc.

However, it's possible that all future VC games could be allowed to be played on the GamePad, just not the older ones you bought on Wii. Therefore, future possible GC, Dreamcast, Saturn etc VC games may be playable on the GamePad.

( Edited 09.11.2012 14:23 by Azuardo )

TAG 09.11.2012#7

Oh, this looks like a mess already. It looks like it'll be more convenient if I just leave the VC games on the Wii. Then I can still keep my Wii around for the VC games in addition to play GC games and maybe for some interesting mods.

I'll definitely not be buying a WiiU at launch. I have to see what complications arise first and how they're addressed (by Nintendo or otherwise).

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Flynnie 10.11.2012#8

Utter mess...surely they would have expected people to be able to want to play the VC games on the gamepad...thats the whole fricking USP!

Someone wants to use the TV to watch Eastenders....great i can play my games on my Wii U gamepad...oh wait...it only works with a handful of actual playable content on the system...

Also i am very worried about the transferring element...especially when they have locked all "Online" game saves to your Wii. If my Brawl data gets corrupted in the transfer i wont be very happy!

Mandown 10.11.2012#9

The inability to play VC games on the Gamepad is utter shit as far as I'm concerned.

I very much doubt Xbox Surface will be ruined in such a way, I expect XBLA users will have all their titles available on that tablet.

( Edited 10.11.2012 17:24 by Linkyshinks )

JayUK 10.11.2012#10

I don't get why its always so slapdash at launch with nintendo, its like they leave a lot of the features until two weeks before launch. They only just got backwards compatibility working(as it will require a day 1 update). Its just so strange a billion dollar company that has so much experience releasing consoles, is still making such amateur mistakes.

( Edited 10.11.2012 17:47 by JayUK )

Flynnie 11.11.2012#11

JayUK said:
I don't get why its always so slapdash at launch with nintendo, its like they leave a lot of the features until two weeks before launch. They only just got backwards compatibility working(as it will require a day 1 update). Its just so strange a billion dollar company that has so much experience releasing consoles, is still making such amateur mistakes.

I think a lot of electrical entertainment products are being rushed to market to much these days. Look at the problems with the iPhone 5, FIFA 13 is taking liberties with the amount of glitches and bugs in there, WWE 13 is taking piss with some of the bugs in there.

Companies just think they can release patches to fix it and i just think that is a broken system and one that is abused way too much these days!

Mush 11.11.2012#12

Flynnie said:
JayUK said:
I don't get why its always so slapdash at launch with nintendo, its like they leave a lot of the features until two weeks before launch. They only just got backwards compatibility working(as it will require a day 1 update). Its just so strange a billion dollar company that has so much experience releasing consoles, is still making such amateur mistakes.
I think a lot of electrical entertainment products are being rushed to market to much these days. Look at the problems with the iPhone 5, FIFA 13 is taking liberties with the amount of glitches and bugs in there, WWE 13 is taking piss with some of the bugs in there.
Companies just think they can release patches to fix it and i just think that is a broken system and one that is abused way too much these days!

Day 1 update for a console is acceptable, not only that but if it is like the Wii, system updates will start being included on disc so people who lack internet access can have Wii support or whatever.

However, releasing a GAME or a piece of software with a ton of glitches, is just seriously unacceptable. I think Nintendo are one of the only companies that still does things right, sure they had a couple of glitches on the Wii (Skyward Sword and Other M) and then there was the MK7 shortcut glitch. But those kinda glitches, which can't always be found during normal bug testing are alright. Releasing games that just have glitch after glitch.. nope. I don't think that's right at all.

Sure, glitches can be funny sometimes, but when I pay full price for a game, I expect a relatively glitch-free experience. There's always going to be glitches out there, no matter how hard developers work to get a perfect game, but that still doesn't mean they should release a glitchfest in order to ship the game out on time.

As I've previously stated though, this is more to do with the publishing side of things. Namely EA and Activision, but they're not the only ones. They set a deadline for the development team and usually there's no way around this, unless the publisher is understandable and gives the devs more time.

Anyways, enough rambling now! Back to the point at hand. First day console update, I don't see a problem as most of the stuff included in the update is exclusively online content, such as Miiverse. As far as I'm aware there are no major glitches in the Wii U's native OS (Native being before the first update). So yeah, no problem at all. Nintendo just want to get the Wii U out in time for Christmas and that's understandable.

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[quote][b]Flynnie said:[/b]<br/>[quote][b]JayUK said:[/b]<br/>I don't get why its always so slapdash at launch with nintendo, its like they leave a lot of the features until two weeks before launch. They only just got backwards compatibility working(as it will require a day 1 update). Its just so strange a billion dollar company that has so much experience releasing consoles, is still making such amateur mistakes. [/quote]

I think a lot of electrical entertainment products are being rushed to market to much these days. Look at the problems with the iPhone 5, FIFA 13 is taking liberties with the amount of glitches and bugs in there, WWE 13 is taking piss with some of the bugs in there.

Companies just think they can release patches to fix it and i just think that is a broken system and one that is abused way too much these days![/quote]Day 1 update for a console is acceptable, not only that but if it is like the Wii, system updates will start being included on disc so people who lack internet access can have Wii support or whatever.

However, releasing a GAME or a piece of software with a ton of glitches, is just seriously unacceptable. I think Nintendo are one of the only companies that still does things right, sure they had a couple of glitches on the Wii (Skyward Sword and Other M) and then there was the MK7 shortcut glitch. But those kinda glitches, which can't always be found during normal bug testing are alright. Releasing games that just have glitch after glitch.. nope. I don't think that's right at all.

Sure, glitches can be funny sometimes, but when I pay full price for a game, I expect a relatively glitch-free experience. There's always going to be glitches out there, no matter how hard developers work to get a perfect game, but that still doesn't mean they should release a glitchfest in order to ship the game out on time.

As I've previously stated though, this is more to do with the publishing side of things. Namely EA and Activision, but they're not the only ones. They set a deadline for the development team and usually there's no way around this, unless the publisher is understandable and gives the devs more time.

Anyways, enough rambling now! Back to the point at hand. First day console update, I don't see a problem as most of the stuff included in the update is exclusively online content, such as Miiverse. As far as I'm aware there are no major glitches in the Wii U's native OS (Native being before the first update). So yeah, no problem at all. Nintendo just want to get the Wii U out in time for Christmas and that's understandable.

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JayUK 11.11.2012#13

Flynnie said:

I think a lot of electrical entertainment products are being rushed to market to much these days. Look at the problems with the iPhone 5, FIFA 13 is taking liberties with the amount of glitches and bugs in there, WWE 13 is taking piss with some of the bugs in there.
Companies just think they can release patches to fix it and i just think that is a broken system and one that is abused way too much these days!

WWE really needs a new developer, every year more glitches get added to the ones they didn't bother to fix the year before. They keep focusing on the little things no one cares about and their god awful story mode. You can always tell whether a games combat is engaging if it works in multiplayer. WWEs doesn't at all.

Nintendo with hardware launches seem a little bit like bethesda with software launches. The whole attitude of lets just get it on store shelves as fast as possible we'll fix it once its on store shelves just seems unprofessional and disorganised.

Mush 11.11.2012#14

JayUK said:
Nintendo with hardware launches seem a little bit like bethesda with software launches. The whole attitude of lets just get it on store shelves as fast as possible we'll fix it once its on store shelves just seems unprofessional and disorganised.

Yes, because the Wii U is being launched, laden with glitches... The update isn't even a bug "fix" or anything, it's just so you can receive all of the online stuff and the ability to play Wii games. Honestly, I don't think anything can be compared to Bethesda's software launches.

Yes, Nintendo wants to get it on store shelves ready for the launch date it promised, because if they delayed it and updated all of the Wii U machines, people would STILL bitch about that. Honestly, Nintendo can never do anything right. Smilie At the end of the day, they're not launching a system that's buggy and doesn't play games. Every aspect of the system is fine before the update, this update just adds all the things that only really matter if you have access to the internet anyways.

JoshSL 11.11.2012#15

WiiU doesn't sound glitchy, just a little empty of features it really should have. I know I sound entitled or whatever but I hope that at least the WiiU can be updated to a greater extent than the Wii. The 360 has changed almost completely since launch with a lot of its integrated stuff so I'm really hoping the WiiU will be updated similarly when it comes to Virtual Console stuff and etc.

Day 1 patches aren't a problem if you ask me, the console will be updated throughout its lifetime and I welcome all patches that add functionality. When you start having to pay for those patches or if a feature is really shitty and broken then yeah complain.

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Sonic_13 11.11.2012#16

JayUK said:
Nintendo with hardware launches seem a little bit like bethesda with software launches.

Wii U is still perfectly usable if you don't update it. It's not like they are shipping a broken system that can only work if updated.

JayUK said:
The whole attitude of lets just get it on store shelves as fast as possible we'll fix it once its on store shelves just seems unprofessional and disorganised.

They aren't fixing anything. They are just adding more features. Manufacturing of the systems has to start at least a few weeks ahead of launch so by utilizing a day-one update they gain at least several more weeks to perfect the onboard software.