Official Wii U Discussion Thread

Stulaw said:
edit: what's happened above?

Had to edit Wolfy's post which featured multiple quoted posts in it.

Not your fault, Wolfy, but in the future, can you (and everyone else) please only quote the text you're replying to, and not all other quotes included in the same post? There is a bit of a problem on the site with it displaying quotes in quotes at the moment, so please keep it minimal. Cheers!

Edit: That said, ending a quote tag at the end of a URL in a post also might have misplaced things, so please also make sure to preview your quote posts to make sure they look okay before posting.

( Edited 07.06.2012 20:07 by Azuardo )

Weird, I couldn't fix it myself, I have staff tools.

On topic: Ghost Recon Online is still on it's way to the Wii U.

Oh, and Ninja Gaiden 3 has new features on the Wii U. It has extra weapons and dismemberment animations and a progress system that lets you upgrade weapons simply. Better AI and more Battle Arenas.

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/39015/ninja-gaiden-razors-edge-whats-new-for-wii-u/



( Edited 07.06.2012 20:41 by Stulaw )

Stulaw said:

Oh and the TBA game on IGN turned out to be Pikmin 3.

It got changed from Pikmin 3 to Project P-100. I was at least looking forward to hearing more about Pikmin 3.

Echoes221 said:
Hmmm. That wasn't a particularly brilliant presentation. Apart from Pikmin 3, when are people going to get sick of the Mario Bros games? It's becoming a yearly thing at this rate...

So is Call of Duty.

Marzy said:

Echoes221 said:
Hmmm. That wasn't a particularly brilliant presentation. Apart from Pikmin 3, when are people going to get sick of the Mario Bros games? It's becoming a yearly thing at this rate...

So is Call of Duty.

I know...that's what I was implying. There is such a thing as series fatigue. And Nintendo are riding it very close. Anyway, CoD lost its way.

Sorry, Azuardo. still new to the quote, spoiler code thingy.

Riding close, they've smashed it with these two games. It's the minor gameplay changes and the bulk of the assets they're using in these games, that pisses me off. Even concepts seem wayward, some feel ironically cheap and ill thought out - a game awash with golden coins in a time of austerity, haha. A Flying Squirrel in one game, and a Tanooki suit in another, It's just all feels bizarre, it's almost like the end of Nintendo's E3 conference. I'll never forget the eerie silence and those fireworks...

Stulaw said:
Weird, I couldn't fix it myself, I have staff tools.

On topic: Ghost Recon Online is still on it's way to the Wii U.

Oh, and Ninja Gaiden 3 has new features on the Wii U. It has extra weapons and dismemberment animations and a progress system that lets you upgrade weapons simply. Better AI and more Battle Arenas.

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/39015/ninja-gaiden-razors-edge-whats-new-for-wii-u/

Hardly a big deal, Ghost Recon Online will be "FREE to Play" on PC and will most likely look an play better in 1080p+ resolutions.

And Ninja Gaiden 3 cannot be fixed, certainly not by Nintendo!. That game is fundamentally flawed. Tecmo went to shit as soon a Itagaki left and brought all his best people to Valhalla, but then that was very clear after Other M.

( Edited 09.06.2012 09:20 by Linkyshinks )

Watch this in 1080p (the person playing is really bad at it), it's gorgeous.

Good article here:

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2012/06/07/wii-wha-why-the-wii-u-will-be-the-most-confusing-console-on-history/

Wow Stu, thanks for sharing that. Pikmin 3 looks stunning. I'm beginning to think that I'm one of the very few people who isn't disappointed with what Nintendo had to show.

..So much negativity going on around here, sorry if I don't post all that much.

That is awesome, stu. I can't wait. I loved pikmin on my gamecube.

Mush123 said:

..So much negativity going on around here, sorry if I don't post all that much.

Same, though you can't blame them really. People expected a 12-month-hyped grand unveiling of a next generation console with footage blowouts of Nintendo Franchises in HD, and that didn't happen. Nintendo chose to focus on the launch games and the third parties, something they historically have never done before at such a major event, and people weren't ready for it.

It's not too surprising when you think about it really, until recently E3 was the single biggest showcase event of the year, and that meant high expense of setting up demo units (and splitting off current development of said demos that cost even more to prepare beforehand), hiring premises and floorspace, and spending on advertisements. Not to mention having to contend with all the other companies and their announcements, running the risk of being drowned out by a higher-profile unveiling. With game development costs only growing more as time goes on, publishers and developers are going to have to weigh up whether or not it is worth doing when that money would be better spent going back into development costs, and they can run their own smaller events at their own convenience. Hense, the now-regular Nintendo Direct events. THAT is where the big announcements will be in future, E3 is now primarily to cater for the stockholders (and yes, I'm well aware that Nintendo stocks dropped after the event, that is a result of a poor showing and negative fan feedback). Look at what Nintendo actually showed as proof of that direction; NSMBU, the third in the line of tremendously popular 2D sidscrollers, Just Dance 4 - next in the line of the top third party sellers on Wii, and Wii Fit U, I don't even need to go into detail for that one.

Personally, I do wish Nintendo had at least given us a reel of what to expect on the way after the launch period, though my belief that NintendoLand's representative I.P's are a preview of what is to come. Heck, from what I hear, the reason the NintendoLand demo was so drawn out is because Nintendo were poised to finish the conference on a high note with Retro's project, but Retro pulled it at the last moment due to feeling that it wasn't ready. Certainly would fit better with the strong opening Pikmin 3 made.
I have no doubt the good stuff is on the way, we just have to be patient, hence why I'm still strongly considering a purchase on launch day (there had better be Black, damnit!). People tend to conveniently forget just how much time, effort, and money goes into HD games, and that will only get worse with the successors to PS3 and 360.

Edit: Another point I wanted to bring up. Nintendo have stated that they do not wish to repeat the mistakes that they made with the 3DS launch, are we seeing that happen already? 3DS's 2010 unveiling was a spectaular affair with a huge array of revealed games and a long list of developer support, but launch held very few compelling games and no true first party headliner title. Wii U's 2012 is almost the exact opposite in overall reaction, and it looks to have a stellar launch lineup, with Pikmin, NSMBU and Lego City easily lining up to take headliner status.
Maybe Nintendo believe they played their 3DS hand too early and are saving up the Wii U cards for later?

( Edited 08.06.2012 05:48 by Phoenixus )

Miyamoto checking out the game that beat Pikmin 3 to the Best in Show award:

https://twitter.com/watchdogsgame/status/210886488492228610

ET Interview with Miyamoto

-Pikmin 3 has been in development for 5 years
-Pikmin 3 on Wii U started 2 years ago
-Brought Pikmin 3 to Wii U because of processing power
-Wanted a title to show off the HD of the system
-On making Zelda for Wii U:

“What is the most important element of Zelda if we were to try to make a Zelda game that a lot of people can play?” So we have a number of different experiments going on, and [when] we decide that we’ve found the right one of those to really help bring Zelda to a very big audience, then we’ll be happy to announce it."

-Miyamoto says there were some people who got tired or didn't like the motion controls for Skyward Sword
-They are looking back at what worked and to improve what didn't
-Miyamoto has been watching a lot of Japanese television (We know his hobbies often influence his games)
-He likes the idea of a artist drawing a manga of what he wants, then seeing it come to television of movies
-He plays guitar to get away from working on games
-He will record a bit of music he likes with his 3DS, will slow it down to figure out how they did it

ZombiU May Come to PS360

http://www.gamekyo.com/newsfr47063_ubisoft-zombiu-un-jour-sur-ps360.html

They couldn't even show off a new controller properly...

Miyamoto says there were some people who got tired or didn't like the motion controls for Skyward Sword

Tired? Tired? It ruined the game for me :/ Motion controls were not responsive for me at all. I sold it not even a third through the game. They forced a poor control scheme on us.

I feel sorry for Nintendo to be honest. First they hog up the game sells with the Wii, with their first party games. Then after stepping down, for third party developers people don't like it. It's going to be hard to get accustomed to it... but... they will eventually find that right spot.

Hopefully the coming months they show off huge things on the Wii U.

Also echoes, linky said; or didn't like it.

I just realised something; that Non-Specific Action Figure guy, was EVERYWHERE in E3.

What if he's in an upcoming game? because think about it, he's EVERYWHERE 3DS showcase, main event, direct access, and now....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx38Q2nEJBk&feature=share

Remember they said they were working on new IPs, what if he's in one of them?

I'll laugh if he's what retro is working on, i know unlikely but really then look at what was said about miyamoto, "Miyamoto has been watching a lot of Japanese television (We know his hobbies often influence his games)" (From Marzy.) japanese tv has a lot of action heroes, that ARE even in animation.

Why do I say that, it's because. THAT'S how Nintendo is. quite, and huge about NDAs and look at reggie's face during the 3ds showcase when scott pulled out the action figure. so his game must be coming to both home and handheld.

( Edited 08.06.2012 09:54 by wolfy )

Here's what Nintendo would have had to change for a better press conference:

- One more big Nintendo IP game. Star Fox. F-Zero. 1080�. Wave Race. Pokémon. Metroid. Fire Emblem. Battalion Wars. SO MANY OPTIONS!!
- Some serious 3rd party games, not ports! And something that looks better than an upscaled N64 game (I'm looking at you Tanks Tanks Tanks and Project P-100).
- Some more good (hardcore/HD) examples of how the Upad can work. The ZombiU demo was great, but wasn't it in the extra reel instead of the main show?
- Less time spent on Nintendoland.
- Actually interesting games in Nintendoland.
- So you promised us you wouldn't talk about 3DS. Now that you do... why only talk about games we've known about for months?!?! Waste of precious time.
- Implement Panorama View in a pretty game like Endless Ocean and it will really show how genious the concept is.
- Talk a bit about the hardware. You don't have to give details, but just convince us that games won't look worse than on PS360.

How hard would that have been??

That Tank game is made in Namco's classic arcade style and is based off the arcade game of the same name.

You think Hideki Kamiya's (Viewtiful Joe, Okami, Vanquish, Bayonetta) P 100 looks like a N64 game, really?. I think it looks awesome, nothing like a N64 game. It's visuals are colourful and crisp, and the animation is tight.

Nintendo fans are desperate for excuses...

http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/up7by/nintendo_was_originally_planning_the_big_reveal/

( Edited 08.06.2012 13:39 by Linkyshinks )

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/06/08/wii-u-gamepad-to-cost-135-wii-u-to-cost-279-nintendo-says-we-will-be-surprised/

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The Swedish branch of retailer GAME is currently listing the Wii U GamePad for a fairly hefty £135. UK online retailer Shopto has already priced the Wii U console at £279. Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime firmly believes that Wii U will “represent an ongoing great value” and that people will be “pleasantly surprised”

“We want to launch at a price that’s going to represent an ongoing great value. How do we launch at a value that we’re going to be able to sustain for a long time? I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised, if you will, about the way we’re managing the value equation.”

The executive noted that despite Nintendo’s E3 focus on the Wii U’s innovative features, the company expects to meet core demands �" but that the console’s more unique facets will prove their chops further down the track.

“What I’ve heard the fan community say is, ‘I want my Mario, I want my Zelda and I want the best of third party’ and that’s what we’re looking to bring to consumers,” he said.

“So in the end, the consumer choice is going to be once I buy my Wii U that satisfies my Nintendo cravings, cravings for all these other great multiplatform franchises, then what is the role of a competitive platform? And to me that is the million dollar question.”

No Tomb Raider for Wii U

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/06/08/no-tomb-raider-for-wii-u/

Shopto actually have a section for Wii U and a price as well. http://www.shopto.net/WII%20U/

Yeah, but Shopto can set what price they want since a European court ruled that Nintendo couldn't set an RRP, so the prices can vary quite a lot.

Linkyshinks said:

They couldn't even show off a new controller properly...

Show Spoiler

The new WiiU Pro reminds me of this

Show Spoiler

- One more big Nintendo IP game. Star Fox. F-Zero. 1080�. Wave Race. Pokémon. Metroid. Fire Emblem. Battalion Wars. SO MANY OPTIONS!!

Has there been some kind of Smash Bros. announcement that I've missed? No-one seems to have mentioned its absence, despite the fact that a game has already been announced, and it's now 4+ years since the last one.

Cheesing it up said:

Has there been some kind of Smash Bros. announcement that I've missed? No-one seems to have mentioned its absence, despite the fact that a game has already been announced, and it's now 4+ years since the last one.

The same goes for Zelda as well, nobody should have ever expected Zelda Wii U to be shown this year, when Skyward Sword was released not even a full year ago.

For me, it's not a specific game I wanted to see - rather, something more substantial than Pikmin.

We all know there'll be a new 3D Mario and 3D Zelda, Nintendo would be insane not to. But the likes of Star Fox, Metroid, F-Zero, Mario Kart - any of these could have been shown. I was expecting at least Mario Kart to be shown.

Seriously, they could have pleased the fans with a concept trailer for a few first-party Nintendo games, in the same vein as the Zelda demo last year. Even if it's years away from release, it would just have made it more worthwhile.

I think people know that these games are on the way, it's just disappointing as there was so much hype and excitement to see Mario in full HD - not 2D - but Galaxy-esque 3D.

Nintendo are more than capable of making a pretty trailer, even if it's not the finished product (take Twilight Princess as an example). The show just need that extra bit more - good, but not great.