Official Wii U Discussion Thread

LOL, FNAC never was a good source of information XD! They don't know about half the games that come out and have never heard of eShop cards . It's a wonder in itself that they know the WiiU is coming out .

Information confirmed by the photo below, but also through our discussion with one of the sellers store FNAC Montparnasse

£55 for games? No fuckin way, sorry. I don't think Nintendo are that stupid.

Also does anyone else find it funny that they've got 'Rumour' and 'confirmed' in the same sentence?
It's either one or the other.

I mean really, game journalism, what are you doing.

( Edited 06.09.2012 12:02 by SuperLink )

That's why C3 are better

Date seems fine, price for the console okay but games definitely way way high. Scart cable, fo real?

( Edited 06.09.2012 13:38 by jb )

jb said:
That's why C3 are better

Scart cable, fo real?

Zilch from Sega at TGS

http://tgs.sega.jp/2012/data/goods_cate/goods

Any surprise announcements are doubtful/

Unfortunately that problem is with SEGA and not the WiiU.
It's depressing, but I'll be surprised if SEGA actually stay in business for the next few years, it just feels like they're trickling out their last few games.

The latest Nintendo Gamer or whatever it's called is supposed to have the price, date and launch games. When is it out?

Going off the rumours that Wii U manufacturing numbers for Europe have been stalled, I'd say December 7th would be ideal. December 8th 2006 was the EU date for the Wii after all.

Purely speculative here, but I wouldn't expect the base price for the Wii U to be much more than the £180 that the Wii was released for. There'll probably be one or two more SKU bundles for higher prices than that, but £200 or thereabouts would be an ideal entry point.

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The rumour about a feature that will let online-connected friends watch whatever game you're playing as it's happening is strangely exciting to me. The prospect of showing off to people isn't an unfamiliar one.

Phoenom said:

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The rumour about a feature that will let online-connected friends watch whatever game you're playing as it's happening is strangely exciting to me. The prospect of showing off to people isn't an unfamiliar one.

Mass Effect 3 Dev Straight Right:

"We've made a few bets on Wii U actually so we're certainly hoping it does well. In addition to ME3 we have an original Wii U title in development, and we've started on another big game in a well known franchise that will be released in 2013." - CEO Tom Crago

Could it be Monster Wii U...

http://www.capcom-unity.com/monster_hunter/go/thread/view/7451/29367313/why_capcom

Downloadble Capcom games...

http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/29368173/Sega_bringing_over_PSNXBLA_titles_to_Wii_U-_could_Capcom_do_the_same

News is coming soon.

( Edited 08.09.2012 19:05 by Linkyshinks )

I've always thought Monster Hunter on Wii U made sense. MH4? I'll buy it (like I bought Tri).

I was talking with friends just yesterday about how perfectly Okami HD would work on WiiU, I like to think that Nintendo's nice development kits would allow ports to easily add Pad functionality.

WiiU is the perfect console for the Okami series, if Capcom ever makes a true sequel, the WiiU is an absolute must. Beautiful HD visuals and touchscreen Celestial Paintbrush, sounds almost too good to be true.

As for Monster Hunter; it always sells better on and seems almost better suited to handheld by this point, especially with the Japanese audience which I suppose is most important to Capcom with MH. I'm guessing that's why MH4 is a 3DS game to begin with, whereas most new MH entries go to home console first and handheld later.

Still maybe we could see an MMO MH game like Frontier on WiiU that would be slick.

European Nintendo Direct on Thursday, 13th of September at 3PM GMT. Will run alongside the event occurring in NYC at the same time. Expect announcements such as Wii U release dates, pricing and hopefully there will be some newly announced games.

I'm looking forward to it! I just really hope that the £55 thing is BS, I'm not buying any game at that price (especially regularly)

Game pricing aside, I'm gonna try and bring a little optimism to the table regarding third parties and the WiiU's lifespan in general. I know there have been mixed feelings of impression and disappointment from what the WiiU is getting from E3, ports, mostly ports, of very high profile games, some with new features but still ports nontheless.

Still, I think people forget that this isn't rare for launch, nor is it necessarily a bad thing when the launch line up is looking pretty strong from third party entries alone, even if non-Nintendo systems have them already, most systems have very poor launch line-ups, even the PS3 did which is now happily chugging along with a wonderful array of exclusives, this is something you can't deny.

What impresses me is the breed of third party games; when the Wii was launched many people hoped for and were promised a wide range of strong third party support, and maybe it wasn't as bad as the Gamecube's, but it still wasn't that great, especially when well the Wii didn't get Batman, it didn't get Assassin's Creed, it didn't get Mass Effect.

The WiiU is being born with this support, a cluster of very strong and acclaimed third party titles that Nintendo-ers haven't had to pleasure to play before, and what impresses me is that I'm sure this isn't the end of it, Bioware want to work on the WiiU, who's to say we won't see Bethesda or Valve on it at some point too? Yes this is very much up to Nintendo to keep their foot in the door of the third parties, bite their own pride and get out there to attempt to fish for what their competitors have as well as more, and I think we have Iwata-san to thank for this as I don't feel Miyamoto is as happy to have a Nintendo system showcasing glory for any developer but themselves.

Visuals haven't taken a huge jump in a long while, even with modern hardware that's existed for 6 years we're still seeing big improvements on the same machines, Oblivion and Skyrim both run on the 360, Tekken 6 and Tekken Tag Tournament 2 both run on the 360, and both franchises show a considerable improvement in visuals as well as other things despite running on the same machine. The WiiU, I think, is able to enter into this mindset with a fair price, having enough of a leg up to keep it getting third party titles for a long time to come, especially if 360 and PS3 are still able to keep up with PC to some extent even now without a successor becoming desperate.

If power can't keep going up and up, maybe the generations will be much longer, meaning that I think even if Nintendo is too early for next gen, maybe not powerful enough for 'next-gen', do they need to be? At least as much as the Wii needed to be (and wasn't)? This is why I think the WiiU has the potential to fit snugly alongside both current gen and next-gen systems, the reason for a next gen is because well, it's just not really necessary yet, and even when it is, I'm sure the technology of 2012 can keep up for a long while, when the technology of 2006's 360 and PS3 is still considered modern.

As long as Nintendo keep on trying to get the support, I think they'll have it, especially when developers have been vocally impressed by the pad and online features.

Then there's the lack of exclusives - I've actually noticed that you don't really get exclusives as much as you used to, almost everything is on PS3, 360, PC, any two of those, and if it's not it's often a first party title, infact you're more likely to find worthy exclusive third party titles as download games, and I hope Nintendo showcase what the WiiU has to offer when it comes to virtual space there too because from the sounds of things it's pretty impressive, with rumours of Capcom and SEGA putting a bunch of games up there quickly.

So I think Nintendo are on the right track, in fact assuming the games aren't £55, I'm going to help show them they're on the right track by buying some of these third party games on the WiiU (I already plan on getting SEGA Racing and Tekken Tag 2 on the WiiU, not to mention the exclusive sequel to one of this gen's most acclaimed and beloved sidescrollers, Rayman Legends). I'm eager to prove to Nintendo that their (perhaps limited but still new) endeavours into third party territory aren't wasted.

Already for me, that makes it a stronger launch than the Wii, DS or 3DS.
I just hope it's reasonably priced and that I like the pad

Specs Leak Rumour

http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-wii-u-final-specs/

http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-wii-u-final-specs/

CPU:

"Espresso" CPU on the Wii U has three enhanced Broadway cores

GPU:

"GPU7" AMD Radeon™-based High Definition GPU. Unique API = GX2, which supports Shader Model 4.0 (DirectX 10.1 and OpenGL 3.3 equivalent functionality)

Memory:

Mem1 = 32MB Mem2 = 1GB (that applications can use)

Storage:

Internal 8 GB with support for SD Cards (SD Cards up to 2GB/ SDHC Cards up to 32GB) and External USB Connected Hard Drives

Networking:

802.11 b/g/n Wifi

Video Output:

Supports 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i

Video Cables Supported:

Compatible cables include HDMI, Wii D-Terminal, Wii Component Video, Wii RGB, Wii S-Video Stereo AV and Wii AV.

USB:

Four USB 2.0 Ports

*Cue pointless spec wars on less civilized forums.

If it can match up to or outperform a PS3 I'm very happy with the WiiU's power, have never bought a console for graphical prowess and never will, it's all about the games.

I also hope it will be stronger than PS3. I've never really been into next gen graphics, but with Wii U I'm glad I finally will be. Zelda, Pikmin etc. will be so pretty.

In the meantime we'll see even prettier graphics on PS4 and Xbox4pi... oh well.

Saw the "spec leak" on NeoGAF, word of advise, don't go on it, it'll drive you crazy with the stupidity and trolling (that specific thread I mean).

The "Three Broadway" cores has particularly caused the stupidity, with many assuming that it literally means three Wiis taped together. A developer under the username wsippel has explained that the cores have Broadway functions, but is a completely new CPU with newer functions as well.

Oh yeah, Black Betty in Rayman FTW .

I'm fairly interested in how Nintendo will handle the first year or so of the Wii U's life. Now it's fairly apparent the specs will be decent but by no means 'next generation' decent - it makes me wonder if come the new set of Sony/MS systems, there may be a very critical third-party shift. All of this improved support for Wii U is reason to be optimistic, but once two new consoles emerge with far superior architecture - how many of them will ease off on full-fledged Nintendo support?

Especially as the logical move on Nintendo's part (to keep competitive with the others) is to troll out all of the famous franchises we know and love in glorious HD. Dark-style Zelda, a new 3D Mario, a sequel to the Metroid Prime series. I certainly wouldn't under-estimate the power of that, cashing in on our nostalgia and what not. But isn't that going to suffocate the market for third-party developers, as it did with the Wii?

And I'm sure the above move would work for Nintendo. I'm not a fan of how they've handled themselves over the last decade. And I'm an avid 360 gamer these days, a playing time ratio of probably 20:1 (360/Wii). But after a childhood of Ocarina of Time, Mario 64, Metroid and so on - true spiritual successors to games such as these would win me over in a heart-beat.

I won't be getting Wii U at launch. But if Nintendo counter the next-gen systems in the way that I expect them too (a price-drop, and the nostalgia-triggering games we expected to see some of at E3 '12), I would definitely invest in one. The one thing I do feel, now Nintendo have gone HD (although they can get bent with their flipping SCART cable if that's true) - is that power differences can be played off. Nintendo have always appreciated the value of artistic design far more than their rivals. Now they have they're foot in the HD door, so long as they play it right - I don't see the chasm between Wii and PS3/360 repeating itself again. Ideally, it would be fairly indiscernible - which I presume is what they're going for, as they're so secretive about the real specs.

The Strat Man said:
I'm fairly interested in how Nintendo will handle the first year or so of the Wii U's life. Now it's fairly apparent the specs will be decent but by no means 'next generation' decent - it makes me wonder if come the new set of Sony/MS systems, there may be a very critical third-party shift. All of this improved support for Wii U is reason to be optimistic, but once two new consoles emerge with far superior architecture - how many of them will ease off on full-fledged Nintendo support?

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The one thing I do feel, now Nintendo have gone HD (although they can get bent with their flipping SCART cable if that's true) - is that power differences can be played off. Nintendo have always appreciated the value of artistic design far more than their rivals. Now they have they're foot in the HD door, so long as they play it right - I don't see the chasm between Wii and PS3/360 repeating itself again. Ideally, it would be fairly indiscernible - which I presume is what they're going for, as they're so secretive about the real specs.

If you have a 360 from 2005, it could still play 360 ports of modern PC games, and they hardly look like a joke do they? I think with as powerful hardware as we have now it's not about how powerful it is but about what you do with it, because even though the 360 and PS3 have been out for a while the visuals and power techniques on new releases have been getting better and better every year, even able to keep up with PC for the most part.

I don't think there will be a huge jump between consoles as far as power is concerned, I think new systems will be for hype and additional features that can't be patched in (but mostly hype)

I'm hoping Nintendo have realised this and given the WiiU some timeproof specs that may not run the games as well as they run on Nextbox or PS4, (Skyrim doesn't run as well on PS3 as it does on PC, but no one will say the PS3 version is awful and it's worth buying a good PC just for the better version) but they'll run them and they'll be perfectly playable and pretty.

Plus yeah art direction, with so many different visual styles coming out lately I think all developers are realising how important art direction is.

So wow that was probably even better than E3, Nintendo Land looks fun especially the Zelda mode and it's included with some versions of the system!

Plus there's a great wealth of third party titles coming out for it, very exciting.

So far I think I want:
- Mario Bros U
- Bayonetta 2
- SEGA Racing
- Tekken Tag 2
- LEGO City
- Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
- Rayman Legends
- maybe Epic Mickey 2 depending on reviews
- Pikmin 3

Really not bad for a modern console launch lineup a launch with a new Mario game that actually looks really good is a great move.

Hoping they reveal UK prices soon, my eyes are peeled on retail sites...