Game Boy vs PSP vs NDS

I can clearly see you and me are going to get on well Redking.

The PSP is essentially a wide-screen version of the GBA so will not be excessively big.

The other thing to remember is innovation is nothing without implementation.

Nintendo can come up with "unique" ideas for the rest of their days but they have to implement them properly. Hopefully I'll get a hands on at ECTS but I am yet to be swayed into believing that the touch screen is BETTER than the standard method currently used.

Does the touch screen make Metroid more enjoyable than the auto-target method used in Metroid: Prime? Will 2 screens really improve the gameplay if all it does is display a menu or map?

Not to sound anti-nintendo, the PSP also has the same issues. Is it really worth having movie playback if I have to buy my movies again on a propietry media which may not work with anything else?

I'd rather have 1 well founded idea that I know works well than have 10 "innovative" ideas which do not improve upon exsisting methods.

ooooh thats a seriously good point its been while since ive seen someone as insightful as you on an internet forum.
and its like ive always said Matt (can i call you matt) We either get on like a house on fire or i set your house on fire.....Well thats not got much to do with anything but its good to know that there is at least one person here who thinks ill be a good addtion to the team (unlike that guy Jb who has been naysaying me at every turn )

Ugh...It's bigger than the GB: Advance, a good deal...Like I said before, it's about the width of two GC controllers if my measurements wtth the USB port were correct. If you take the PSP into photoshop and reproduce the USB port across the bottom of the unit and then measure out that many USB connecters paper you'll see...

No your measure ments were wrong the usb is a mini usb or soemthing

I don't think it was a "mini-usb". There is a chance that the end connecting to the PSP is smaller than a typical USB connecter, but even if you make your measurements smaller it is still a good deal larger than any GBA I've seen. That is unless they've created the ultra-long-to-akward-to-hold model, which I highly doubt.

Unless you have some backing to your mini USB, which it isn't until I'm proven otherwise then don't make random comments which do nothing but attempt to disprove a theory on little or no factual information.

It's probably SSB (Sony Serial Bus) another invention to monopolise a market I'm about to buy another GBA tomorrow (an SP in fact) and will most defiently get the DS when it comes out. I am reserving Judgement on the PSP for the moment, I wont buy it, because I have enough Panasonic portable media players to last me, but I wont call it crap just because I don't need one that trys to do everything but will cost me my internal organs... Besides they are all ready reserved for the next consoles.

The same size as the original GBA? I do find that hard to believe though. If you look at the positioning of the bottoms when compared to the GBA. They are both, approximately, the same size away from the side of the console. "So what" I hear you say? Well if they are the same size away from the side of the console, the either means the screen isn't as big as they make it out to be, or the buttons are really tiny. Pick up a GBA and try fit the screen on it, then try to imagine there being Four buttons on one side and a d-pad and a analog nub on the other.

I'm gonna go find another picture of it, to make sure i'm not rambling.

Arkyris Out.

EDIT: I really don't care who "wins" as long as Nintendo make enough money to be profitable and stay in the game I will be happy. Of course a win would give me something to rub in the faces of all the Sony Fanboys... but you win some you lose some.

[ Edited by Arkyris on 2004/6/28 17:45 ]

GR781 wrote:
read my above "speech" for why casual gamers wont buy it..

I did GR and I still think loyal Sony owners and those who believe Nintneod are kiddy, will still be drawn into the PSP. And I am yet to be fooled by the DS as of yet, I mean there has been a lot of praise for it, but so far the second screen has just been a map. That's really nothing innovative. And the final design of the DS has not been finalised according to Nintendo at E3 so it may become more smaller, or they'll just make a DS: SP.

i'm sorry, but sony technolgy is wayyy ahead of nintendo-check this out:Click Here!!!

And what the hell am I looking at and what the hell does it have to do with the PSP or the DS?

Stop making posts which have no relation to the topic of the thread.

Anyway, yes the button point is good...If the PSP is the size of the GBA how the hell is the screen that big and the buttons that far away from it. Unless they've found a way to bend reality as we know it than there is no way they are the same size.

Sharpshot i think you are confusing two types of people. Leroy Zero was refering to the casual gamer the person who is'nt hardcore into either company or console they just want to pay a reasonable price to have some fun. You are Refering to those sony fans who think the Nintendo is kiddy all of leroys answers still apply to the casual gamer.
The Sony Fan though ( the latter one i described ) Will Just see the DS as a cheap gimick ( which i hate to say it it isnt seeming to be used for much Refer to one of gastrians arguments about inovative technology either in this thread or another one) And go for the sleeker looking Psp (the typical Sony fanboy all about looks). Although i still think that even they could be put off by a hefty price tag.
Sorry if i waffled a bit

topic is Game Boy vs PSP vs NDS what about the new GameBoy?

Nintendo's best tactics is to use the GBA2 as a safety measure to combat the PSP - seeing how the public react to the PSP vs NDS, then releasing the GBA2 once they know the situation

Edited is this better?

[ Edited by Jump_button on 2004/6/29 0:07 ]

OK jump button it is not my place to say But That post (even though i didnt understand it) Definitely sounded inteligent and i think yo umay improve you just need to form your ideas more and make them clearer.
of course it really is a mods place to say

Xerou wrote:
I don't think it was a "mini-usb". There is a chance that the end connecting to the PSP is smaller than a typical USB connecter, but even if you make your measurements smaller it is still a good deal larger than any GBA I've seen. That is unless they've created the ultra-long-to-akward-to-hold model, which I highly doubt.

Unless you have some backing to your mini USB, which it isn't until I'm proven otherwise then don't make random comments which do nothing but attempt to disprove a theory on little or no factual information.

OMFG!!! Xerou, I've been selling PC equipment for 5 years, USB wasn't even industry standard when I started in the UK market. I know the difference between USB and Mini-USB and it is defnitely a mini-USB on the PSP.

How do I know this? Quite simply they are a completely different shape. USB is a rectangular shape mini-USB is more like a trapezium and if you look at the PSP what do you see? A trapezium shaped port. So before you start moaning at others to back up their claims it would be a good idea for you to do it yourself.

Now further on to dis-prove your "theory", a standard GC controller is 130mm long, therefore 2 together would be 260mm. The official measurements on the PSP is 170mm. Yes thats right, 170mm, making it only 40mm longer than a single GC controller, less than a 25% increase. And if the DS is roughly 2 GBAPs stuck together the DS will be 160mm meaning there'll be 10mm (1cm) difference between the DS and the PSP.

So xerou, before you have a go at me or any of the other members because of our

random comments which do nothing but attempt to disprove a theory on little or no factual information

You dont know how glad i am that someone else confirmed it was a minu usb i remember someone on the thread said something about it and i took a random stab.
I think sony really will have to reveiw the price

Sonario and I mentioned it in another thread.

And to answer your earlier question you can call me Matt if you wish.

I still think in all honesty if the price is anything like Leroy said it was then noone will buy yhe psp.
But to be honest The DS doesent look aesthetically pleasing at all It looks chunky and cumbersome. Dual screen or not.

It may be expensive, (may not be, we don't know yet) but for overall quality I think the PsP is taking the lead

Really I thought the DS had More INSIDE that the PSP i thoguht the psp was all about looks

The PSP is the most powerful of the two consoles on paper (We've yet to see it in action). From all reports it has a much better screen.

The PSP is the natural progression of the handheld market. Its taking a GBA, adding more power and a few multimedia features.

The DS is a "third-pillar" or an off-shot of the current handheld market. It is not as powerful as the PSP but is incorporating different technologies.

Ta! matt
I never realised I just thought the DS would be stronger sorry to ask stupid questions but what multimedia does it have Mp3 ?

you can play movies from UMD's, music , supposedly download music on it, (not sure if sony are going to try and push their own music format, yark)

ANOTHER MUSIC FORMAT fuck off i can barely handle what we have just now.
Errrrm whats a UMD

its the small enclosed discs that the PsP reads. ,

Will these discs be only readable by the PSP. I take it then you cant get rewritable versions to write stuff on these CDS.
If the PSP creates these new disc types and musical file types and these types dont take off then wont the PSP just not take off. I mean if they use these files to make movies then these movie disks will be purchased solely by psp users

The PSP will most likely use ATRAC which is an exsisting format. Its Sony's equivelant to MP3 but isn't as good.