Wii online?

As I'm new this has probably been posted before on one of the 39+ pages of the forum backwards, but I'm too lazy to find it. SO can anyone tell me or show me the link to some good wii online info. Is it free online access is is live X box live, do u have to pay? Is their a headset/microphone planned like I've heard? Which games are confirmed online so far. Again I appolagise if this has been posted about before or recently and I have missed it, and about the spam ty star reply.

From what I've heard recently, there won't be any third party games online for a year.

-Not until early next year at the earliest (in house games)

-It's free (unless publisher charges a subscription to use proper dedicated servers eg for an MMO)

-First games will be Pokemon, Smash Bros and Battalion Wars

-We've heard nothing about a headset or mic, but have heard of some speach-to-text patents which might be relevent

-You need to buy an add-on if you don't have a wireless router

-It will be horribly laggy with everyone on nasty wireless internet and cheap servers, not to mention people not having a clue what they're doing, and even more squeeky american kids than any online service you can shake a stick at - garenteed

( Edited on 13.11.2006 16:15 by Grumbler )

Basically, online isn't going to be very good. At least for a couple of years.

also i hear that you'll be able to use the DS WiFi adaptor to play online, right?

Takeo said:
also i hear that youll be able to use the DS WiFi adaptor to play online, right?

Loads of internet connection sharing + wireless + free peer to peer hosted games = Lagtacular

( Edited on 13.11.2006 16:50 by Grumbler )

My pc's on the majority of the day anyway, but yea, Connect24 is gona be a bitch until i get a wireless network sorted out...IF i get a wireless network sorted out

Cleetus said:

Takeo said:also i hear that youll be able to use the DS WiFi adaptor to play online, right?

Yes, with or without official drivers, but you have to leave your PC on which defeats the point of the Wii being efficient and quiet for Connect24, as well as adding to the lag.Loads of internet connection sharing + wireless + free peer to peer hosted games = Lagtacular( Edited on 13.11.2006 16:50 by Grumbler )

So do you think getting the USB ethernet adapter and hard connecting it to our routers would be much faster? Would that cut down lag?

Cleetus said:
garenteed

For saying you seem to be the be-all and end-all of most threads on C3, this is sloppy

At least no one would swear at you like on xbox live....

you might get some 7 year olds going "you're smelly!!!" if you beat them though....

Can't you filter out people with slow connections in some games?

All in all, Nintendo's idiotic approach to ignoring internet online gaming will be the most likely cause of death when they wonder what went wrong.

Ignoring HD does not matter much to most,
Having REALLY low hardware spec has its up sides too,
Providing piss poor sound is a shame but sound is minor...

Not having online support in EVERY game is bad, having NO online support in ALL games is just plain wrong.

Microsoft and the Xbox has grown into such a large console from the online aspect alone, PS2 tried to copy it but being such an old console made it hard, now Xbox 360 has amazing online services, Playstation 3 will have identical... Wii will be laughed at in this aspect.

People can reply and cry that its good that they dont have it, its the right move, yarda yarda , but we all know how large a key element it is.

Agreed, if nintendo dont sort out their online capabilities within the first few months of launch then they're gona have big problems by the tiem the ps3 hits the shops

crazylurch said:

Cleetus said:

Takeo said:also i hear that youll be able to use the DS WiFi adaptor to play online, right?

Yes, with or without official drivers, but you have to leave your PC on which defeats the point of the Wii being efficient and quiet for Connect24, as well as adding to the lag.Loads of internet connection sharing + wireless + free peer to peer hosted games = Lagtacular( Edited on 13.11.2006 16:50 by Grumbler )

So do you think getting the USB ethernet adapter and hard connecting it to our routers would be much faster? Would that cut down lag?

What just plugging it into a USB router? That wouldn't work at all.

ZeroSimon said:
At least no one would swear at you like on xbox live....you might get some 7 year olds going youre smelly!!!

Cant you filter out people with slow connections in some games?

Yeah, getting the ethernet adaptor and plugging it into the router would speed things up...

Ghost-in-the-Snow said:
Yeah, getting the ethernet adaptor and plugging it into the router would speed things up...

You can get a perfectly good connection over wireless, but loads of people will have shit connections through loads of walls, is what I'm saying. Which means that they'll be sending you data more slowley, and particularly loosing packets. If they're hosting the game it would be almost unplayable.

( Edited on 13.11.2006 17:48 by Grumbler )

You can get a perfectly good connection over wireless, but loads of people will have shit connections through loads of walls, is what I'm saying.

I get a pretty ace signal in my room if I use my Linksys Wi-Fi adaptor thingy, but with my Intel PCMIA card I get 'low' or 'good' most often, so I suppose it will be down to how good the Wii is at picking up Wireless signals.

If it ain't all that, I might buy a magic arial thing that plugs into my router and boosts the signal, could be handy, we'll see I suppose.

Cleetus said:

crazylurch said:

Cleetus said:

Takeo said:also i hear that youll be able to use the DS WiFi adaptor to play online, right?

Yes, with or without official drivers, but you have to leave your PC on which defeats the point of the Wii being efficient and quiet for Connect24, as well as adding to the lag.Loads of internet connection sharing + wireless + free peer to peer hosted games = Lagtacular( Edited on 13.11.2006 16:50 by Grumbler )

So do you think getting the USB ethernet adapter and hard connecting it to our routers would be much faster? Would that cut down lag?

What just plugging it into a USB router? That wouldnt work at all.

ZeroSimon said:At least no one would swear at you like on xbox live....you might get some 7 year olds going youre smelly!!!

What makes you think that?

Cant you filter out people with slow connections in some games?

Yes, you can do maximum ping on may PC games. Bollocks will any Wii games bother with that though.

ARG! No, I was simply asking does wireless have much more of a lag compared to using ethernet wires? Becasue we have both options for the Wii.

ARG! No, I was simply asking does wireless have much more of a lag compared to using ethernet wires? Becasue we have both options for the Wii.

Wireless has the potential to be more 'laggy' than wired, because if there's a lot of stuff between your Wii and your router, or you have a crummy router, you'll only get a fraction of your actual bandwidth in both upload and download.

Because WiFi is standard, more people will be using it than on other consoles which have the sensible wired option out of the box. So even if you have a well set up wireless connection, the entire game will lag if the host has a crap one, and individual players will lag if they have a crap one.

Because Nintendo are trying to get morons to buy the Wii, it's likely that lots of people will have rubbish connections.

So the Wii lis a lag disaster waiting to happen. The only way to avoid it is to play private games with people you know have decen connections, otherwise you'll encounter shit ones all the time.

Is this really that complicated?

( Edited on 13.11.2006 18:18 by Grumbler )

crazylurch said:

Cleetus said:

crazylurch said:

Cleetus said:

Takeo said:also i hear that youll be able to use the DS WiFi adaptor to play online, right?

Yes, with or without official drivers, but you have to leave your PC on which defeats the point of the Wii being efficient and quiet for Connect24, as well as adding to the lag.Loads of internet connection sharing + wireless + free peer to peer hosted games = Lagtacular( Edited on 13.11.2006 16:50 by Grumbler )

So do you think getting the USB ethernet adapter and hard connecting it to our routers would be much faster? Would that cut down lag?

What just plugging it into a USB router? That wouldnt work at all.

ZeroSimon said:At least no one would swear at you like on xbox live....you might get some 7 year olds going youre smelly!!!

What makes you think that?

Cant you filter out people with slow connections in some games?

Yes, you can do maximum ping on may PC games. Bollocks will any Wii games bother with that though.

ARG! No, I was simply asking does wireless have much more of a lag compared to using ethernet wires? Becasue we have both options for the Wii.

802.11G transmits at 54 Mbit/s, that is faster then any internet connection that you'll be able to get so it wouldn't be the wireless the bring you down.

Cleetus said:

ARG! No, I was simply asking does wireless have much more of a lag compared to using ethernet wires? Becasue we have both options for the Wii.

Wireless has the potential to be more laggy than wired, because if theres a lot of stuff between your Wii and your router, or you have a crummy router, youll only get a fraction of your actual bandwidth in both upload and download.Because WiFi is standard, more people will be using it than on other consoles which have the sensible wired option out of the box. So even if you have a well set up wireless connection, the entire game will lag if the host has a crap one, and individual players will lag if they have a crap one.Because Nintendo are trying to get morons to buy the Wii, its likely that lots of people will have rubbish connections.So the Wii lis a lag disaster waiting to happen. The only way to avoid it is to play private games with people you know have decen connections, otherwise youll encounter shit ones all the time.Is this really that complicated?( Edited on 13.11.2006 18:18 by Grumbler )

It was an opinion I was after not how it works. Are you always sarcy?

802.11G transmits at 54 Mbit/s, that is faster then any internet connection that you'll be able to get so it wouldn't be the wireless the bring you down.

crazylurch said:

Cleetus said:

ARG! No, I was simply asking does wireless have much more of a lag compared to using ethernet wires? Becasue we have both options for the Wii.

Wireless has the potential to be more laggy than wired, because if theres a lot of stuff between your Wii and your router, or you have a crummy router, youll only get a fraction of your actual bandwidth in both upload and download.Because WiFi is standard, more people will be using it than on other consoles which have the sensible wired option out of the box. So even if you have a well set up wireless connection, the entire game will lag if the host has a crap one, and individual players will lag if they have a crap one.Because Nintendo are trying to get morons to buy the Wii, its likely that lots of people will have rubbish connections.So the Wii lis a lag disaster waiting to happen. The only way to avoid it is to play private games with people you know have decen connections, otherwise youll encounter shit ones all the time.Is this really that complicated?( Edited on 13.11.2006 18:18 by Grumbler )

It was an opinion I was after not how it works. Are you always sarcy?

( Edited on 13.11.2006 18:46 by Grumbler )

( Edited on 13.11.2006 18:48 by Grumbler )

Cleetus said:

802.11G transmits at 54 Mbit/s, that is faster then any internet connection that youll be able to get so it wouldnt be the wireless the bring you down.

So why is the internet on my sisters laptop so slow when she goes upstairs?

I think it is because it is harder for the laptop to establish a connection but once it has, then it can connect at those speeds.

crazylurch said:

Cleetus said:

802.11G transmits at 54 Mbit/s, that is faster then any internet connection that youll be able to get so it wouldnt be the wireless the bring you down.

So why is the internet on my sisters laptop so slow when she goes upstairs?

I think it is because it is harder for the laptop to establish a connection but once it has, then it can connect at those speeds.

But that's not what I said...

I said it's slow, not slow to connect.

Cleetus said:

crazylurch said:

Cleetus said:

802.11G transmits at 54 Mbit/s, that is faster then any internet connection that youll be able to get so it wouldnt be the wireless the bring you down.

So why is the internet on my sisters laptop so slow when she goes upstairs?

I think it is because it is harder for the laptop to establish a connection but once it has, then it can connect at those speeds.

But thats not what I said...I said its slow, not slow to connect.

I don't see there being a logical reason for speed to be slower when moving away from it. You either have a connection at a certain speed or not. Distance will not affect speed, only signal strength.

crazylurch said:

Cleetus said:

crazylurch said:

Cleetus said:

802.11G transmits at 54 Mbit/s, that is faster then any internet connection that youll be able to get so it wouldnt be the wireless the bring you down.

So why is the internet on my sisters laptop so slow when she goes upstairs?

I think it is because it is harder for the laptop to establish a connection but once it has, then it can connect at those speeds.

But thats not what I said...I said its slow, not slow to connect.

I dont see there being a logical reason for speed to be slower when moving away from it. You either have a connection at a certain speed or not. Distance will not affect speed, only signal strength.

Oh for fuck's sake. I'm talking about objects, i.e. walls, in between, hindering radio waves.

This is becoming a joke.