Capcom is full of CRAP.

When speaking about Umbrella Chronicles - it stated that it started out like RE4.

Why did they change the direction the game was going?

"At the initial stage of development, Umbrella Chronicles' play system was similar to Resident Evil 4's," producer Masachika Kawata told Famitsu in a video interview. "But, it's extremely difficult on Wii. Too complicated to enjoy. Wii users like easiness. Umbrella Chronicles is not only for game enthusiasts. Complex operability can be an obstacle for Wii users. We want players to enjoy the game's horrifying and creepy world and its thrilling shooting action. By reducing enthusiast-only elements, players can purely enjoy the world."

To achieve this goal, Kawata admits that Capcom "

MistaSergio said:
Masachika Kawata told Famitsu in a video interview. But, its extremely difficult on Wii. Too complicated to enjoy. Wii users like easiness. Umbrella Chronicles is not only for game enthusiasts. Complex operability can be an obstacle for Wii users.

This is why the Wii is shit. Can you even imagine how fucking awesome Re1, 2, and 3 would be, RE4-style!? Ugh. Chronicles is going to be mediocre at best, I'm not going to sit on the fence like GR

( Edited on 01.05.2007 01:37 by Oni )

Saddly, this is what happens when you put the director of the main series on a Spin Off and you put some retard on a main game.

While I do like how RE:UC is turing out, this dose frustrate me. Expecally since this is the guy that did the PS2 port of the Cube version that was horrible. Why dose he have say?

Oh, and the Wii sucking is entirely opinion. Personally, the 360 sucks because all it seems to have are rehashed sports games and halo-clones, but to each his/her own.

Looks increasingly like the Wii is going to be another uphill struggle.

GR781 said:
and I wouldnt call Capcom jerks, theyve just correctly analysed a market and are playing it.

I don't know. I would normally agree with this statement but they've changed what Resident Evil is to its fans. The RE4 face-lift was amazing and made it new again - but this doesn't do it.

The reason I throw "Jerks" upon them is because they did not take into account [or didn't state it] that the RE4 fans from the Cube - and the new ones they're making with RE4 Wii - are here and in great numbers. I called them jerks because they forgot about the fan base they have already installed on Nintendo's side of things. I call them jerks because they've fell into the trap that is "Wii = Easy" - Wii is to equal innovation and for it to be accessible - but "easy" does not go hand and hand with those listed qualities.

My apologies if it comes off fiery - it isnt!

( Edited on 01.05.2007 01:45 by MistaSergio )

Resident Evil is not Virtua Cop. They've tried making it into Virtua Cop before, and it has always been crap. It will be crap this time, too. Why on earth they think the life-style, Wii-wielding scum will be interested in Resident Evil at all boggles the mind. It's the more hardcore Wii-owners who'll want it, so why are they dumbing it down for the people who won't even buy it?

( Edited on 01.05.2007 01:45 by Oni )

Oni-Ninja said:
Resident Evil is not Virtua Cop. Theyve tried making it into Virtua Cop before, and it has always been crap. It will be crap this time, too. Why on earth they think the life-style, Wii-wielding scum will be interested in Resident Evil at all boggles the mind. Its the more hardcore Wii-owners wholl want it, so why are they dumbing it down for the people who wont even buy it?)

trufax

Oni-Ninja said:
Resident Evil is not Virtua Cop. Theyve tried making it into Virtua Cop before, and it has always been crap. It will be crap this time, too. Why on earth they think the life-style, Wii-wielding scum will be interested in Resident Evil at all boggles the mind. Its the more hardcore Wii-owners wholl want it, so why are they dumbing it down for the people who wont even buy it?( Edited on 01.05.2007 01:45 by Oni )

co-sign.

we've been down this "Time Crisis" road before - remember?
no? okay - let me help:

Link

Horrible. And even they could control their characters SORT of.

Well my Mom is excited for this game, but then again she dose not represent the majority of the market that may like this game.

I think with RE:UC, the director working at Capcom got it wrong. When Nintendo ment casual they did not mean in gameplay. What they did ment were simple and intuitive controls but with deph that can be pushed to underneath.

Like Super Mario World for instance. Any retard can move Mario around and Jump to the end of the level. But to try to find every level and every path and every item, that takes huge chalange. Its not a requirement to do so, but the deph is there.

The more developers begin to understand that the better, and hopefully soon.

So far it's really only been Capcom and Konami who have expressed this position. But the unfortunate thing is that it may spread. The same people would have bought UC if it was RE4 style...Except more people would buy it.

Fuck them...if this is going to be their attitude towards the Wii then Kawata can go swallow a knife.

This is really pissing me off...I partly blame Nintendo for this.

xeke said:
So far its really only been Capcom and Konami who have expressed this position. But the unfortunate thing is that it may spread. The same people would have bought UC if it was RE4 style...Except more people would buy it.

I would actualy dissagree with Konami. Elebits is very frustrating in the later levels, and Dewys Adventure seems to be more of a tradtional platform/puzzle game like back in teh 16 bit days. Sure, it may be cute, but when did cute mean eazy?

The thing I am looking forwards to from Capcom is Treasure Island Z. That game the guy is working on to make the contorl simple yet hard, he alrady said that they are tricking out the already hard puzzles and they want to frustrate the player with the teasers.

GR781 said:

Oni-Ninja said:

MistaSergio said:Masachika Kawata told Famitsu in a video interview. But, its extremely difficult on Wii. Too complicated to enjoy. Wii users like easiness. Umbrella Chronicles is not only for game enthusiasts. Complex operability can be an obstacle for Wii users.

This is why the Wii is shit. Can you even imagine how fucking awesome Re1, 2, and 3 would be, RE4-style!? Ugh. Chronicles is going to be mediocre at best, Im not going to sit on the fence like GR ( Edited on 01.05.2007 01:37 by Oni )

Not really sitting on the fence, Im no resi fanatic so Im not up in arms about it, chances are itll be rubbish, but I wouldnt be daft enough to slate a game before anyone has played it. This news is just a bad indicator.

The reason I throw Jerks upon them is because they did not take into account [or didnt state it] that the RE4 fans from the Cube - and the new ones theyre making with RE4 Wii - are here and in great numbers.

Well, good theyve got that covered by releasing RE4 then.. Basically, those of you threatening to knife people should relax a little, and realise that this was bound to happen here and there. It doesnt mean everything Capcom does will be like this- they wouldnt be releasing resi4 if they didnt think a resi4 style game would sell, why would they waste the time porting it when you can just play the GC version on your wii anyway? This is just a symptom of nintendos (very clever) business strategy, and sensible game developers now have to cater for the expanded market (i.e. not us, we were already here), so some things are going to happen that we dont like. Capcom arent evil and they arent jerks, theyre just a sensible company with a duty to their shareholders etc to make a profit. They dont have any duty to make you the game that you want; if its a bad business idea, they shouldnt do it. If you want a proper next gen resi and it doesnt appear on the wii, Capcom arent assholes, you just chose the wrong console for that game.

Sarcastic or not (hard to tell), I agree with this post.

From what I notice, Capcom seems to have made up its mind with 80% of the suport going to 360. Wich sucks because when playing Lost Planet, the aiming controls feel like they should have been using a pointer system instead of the crappy analog stick.

So yes, saddly 3rd Parties like to chose consoles without decalring full sport to keep the options open. Like EA has shafted PS3 and moved to Wii. Capcom seems to be doing the reverse.

I love the Resident Evil series.

I think it is a fantastic thing that they are keeping the "true" versions of Resident Evil (#5 Thank God!) on the Xbox 360, not the Wii.

Sure there are a lot of Wii fans here, and I am sure Sidepocket will disagree, but you do not spoil a fantastic series by putting it on a dumbed down console (no offense, but in comparison to the other consoles, it is).

I think they did the right thing making the Wii ports "easy" as it will increase the sales and get the Resident Evil name on new players minds. If you want true to style gaming experiances, then buy one of the other consoles.

Also, the rumor than Final Fantasy are bringing out something big shortly (namely FF7 Remake) - This has been assumed that it wont be on the PS3, if they put it on the Wii, i would choke them. This is another example of what to do and what not to do with a classic series (at least the main versions of the series).

KUDOS!

GR781 said:
theyve just correctly analysed a market and are playing it.

I can't believe that GameCube got that 4-game RE exclusivity deal. It was an absolute coup for Nintendo, and I don't see how it financially benefitted Capcom (last minute contract-bending notwithstanding). Perhaps they're still reeling from it.

I'd have been happy if they stuck with the RE4 engine and put their time into making UC around that. Instead we've got a Wiimake and some half-baked RE pre-teen/post-retirement shoot-em-up. It's so unambitious. Sadness seems to be the only title on the release lists that looks beyond the demographic charts. I'm afraid that it'll be a lone 'Eternal Darkness'-style blip on the radar of a console drowned by its own image.

Wii60 it is then

If you were to read some of these posts out of context, you'd think that some of you had been inexplicably wronged by a close friend :/.

To the people who seem to be under the impression that Capcom owe you some great debt; they don't.

Jerks? They're a *company*. Like it or not, we are living in a world where the likes of Brain Training and Wii Sports are major cash cows - why shouldn't Capcom try to get a piece of the mass-market pie?

Sorry, but you can't applaud Nintendo for attempted to expand the marketplace with their franchises, and then chastise Capcom for doing the same thing. Of course, you're more than entitled to be critical of their decision from a business/common sense point of view - Oni Ninja nailed it earlier - but any moral outrage is completley unfounded.

Personally I think Umbrella Chronicles is looking pretty nice. There's always Resident Evil 5 on the 360 and PS3, so why not try something a little different on the Wii?

You guys are all blowing it out your heads to nod and agree with this move. They're going to tie in the missing links to the RE story in this manner - and all of you act like "oh, thats cool".

As a fan of RE - I am shocked by the idea that presenting the "rest of the story" in such a removed format is going to be a good move - because really - this game is a fan service/budget title [in comparing it to the cost of making RE4].

And addressing that Capcom doesn't owe us something - is wrong. Capcom doesn't create games for themselves - they create it for us - and the reason RE4 was a project they have now ported/porting to 3 different systems [not counting PC] was because of the fans of it. This game and all that RE is has been thumbed down to "appeal" but to who?

"Hey Mom, lets go shoot zombies in the head!"

No. The marketplace for the Wii is to appeal to non-gamers but UC is a game made FOR gamers - and no format is going to make it "open up" to new people - new people won't know whats going on--- unless the story is put on the back shelf of this project. Which also makes me worry...

The only reason I can see this being worthwhile is that the RE team is burned out of doing this style game and do not want to be doing it for UC and RE5.

I could understand that.

...Like I said - I'll play it if I get to kill Wesker [ which I won't cuz that bastard appeared to Ada in RE4 ]

( Edited on 01.05.2007 15:49 by MistaSergio )

The Wii is a fantastic console and one that continues to outsell the 360 despite only the recent shipment just hitting the U.S as of yesterday, the fact it is outselling the 360 and PS3 during shortages is amazing and speaks highly of it's continuing SUCESS, hardly a up hill struggle Grumbler.^

Well i rank Capcom among my favourite developers, i have around 16 games of theirs at present and will no doubt continue to buy their games because they ooze quality.

I understand what your pointing out Mista and it is a little troubling when you hear conflicting crap, but these statements will give you no real strong indication of what the final game will be like.

Wait till it's nearer finished till you pass judgement, Capcom may surprise many with just how good it is, too many here have to much preconcieved ideas of how well it will play simply because it is on the rails.

I have total faith in the development team to deliver the goods, i am absolutely confident that Capcom will redefine the on rails shooter with this game, i say screw the doubters, it's going to be excellent with Capcom making this transition, their understanding of gameplay mechanics and prior khowledge into the genre is top draw, and it will show in the final product.

I agree with another above, despite my love for the fantastic console! that is the Wii, i sincerly would not wish RE5 would appear on it.

RE5 is using the Chaos Engine, it's ridiculous to think that such a engine could run on Wii whithout major flaw.

I am glad now that we will have a different offering on Wii, i will get RE5 on the 360, issue solved. LS

( Edited on 01.05.2007 16:19 by Linkyshinks )

The Wii is a fantastic console and one that continues to outsell the 360 despite only the recent shipment just hitting the U.S as of yesterday, the fact it is outselling the 360 and PS3 during shortages is amazing and speaks highly of it's continuing SUCESS, hardly a up hill struggle Grumbler.^

I was talking about good games as opposed to watered down shite, I couldn't care less how it's selling. Good on them for shifting their demographic so well and making a killing, shame it's shifted away from me.

MistaSergio said:
Umbrella Chronicles is not only for game enthusiasts.

Selling the hardware is the most important hurdle after the problems with the cube, quality games and comiment to making money from a sucessfull hardware platform brings about the quality in games you talk of.

All the dire ports will be done with by the end of the year and dedicated Wii games will suprise many, not with just how they look, but also how well they will utilize all the control options available. (broadest on Wii)

Quality games are born on sucessfull platforms, i was expecting the situation to be nowhere near as good as this during this lull that was predicted by many.

Other platforms had sealed the deal with the top developers long ago, Nintendo have not been so fortunate but in despite of this they have done an amazing job rounding up support, Iwata's Keynote laid it all out and Nintendo have seen it through with flying colours.

It was NEVER in the console aims that Wii would perform to the level of the others, it is however a humble machine that will, i believe give life to some of the greatest videogames of all time, in time.

When you actually own a Wii you understand it better, some aspects are lame, but it grows on you imensely despite it's little flaws.

LS

( Edited on 01.05.2007 17:47 by Linkyshinks )

MistaSergio said:
And addressing that Capcom doesnt owe us something - is wrong. Capcom doesnt create games for themselves - they create it for us - and the reason RE4 was a project they have now ported/porting to 3 different systems [not counting PC] was because of the fans of it.

You're talking as though you donated your own money to making Resident Evil 4 :/ .

When you gave Capcom your money, you received a product (Resident Evil 4) in return. They got a little something from you, and you got a little something from them - you're on an even keel with Capcom now. Had you already forwarded 40 quid forward to Capcom on the premise that they'd be making a traditional Resident Evil game for Wii, then they'd owe you something.

However, for all the time you've been 'supporting' Capcom, you've received wonderful products for your trouble. You are *not* some great martyr, and Capcom do *not* owe you a damn thing - besides a general good business grace.

Oh nevermind, Linkyshinks, you'll understand one day.

ZiggyStardust said:

MistaSergio said:And addressing that Capcom doesnt owe us something - is wrong. Capcom doesnt create games for themselves - they create it for us - and the reason RE4 was a project they have now ported/porting to 3 different systems [not counting PC] was because of the fans of it.

You are *not* some great martyr, and Capcom do *not* owe you a damn thing - besides a general good business grace.

I didn't donate money towards RE4....I did however give money for the production of RE5. I brought that software in support of more like it.

Make sense? If RE4 = flop -- RE5 would've been much different/non-existence.

I'm simply apart of the people who support this production -- and I do indeed count. Its like Voting - people as a collective don't vote because they're just one person - but if we all felt that way about created software - we'd just borrow the games from people - play them and be done. Does this make sense? [ well, it won't matter if you have a "I won't vote cuz one vote doesn't make a different" mind-state. ]

While I find your need to state Capcom is a "Business" - and that they owe me nothing is fine - I do not think you're on the same page as I am and I haven't done anything to clear up my position on this.

And I won't. I called Capcom jerks - more saying it directed to the direction they've taken the game - and your stepping in to say I've passed up on this too quickly. Also continuing to say I've made it sound like I "had been inexplicably wronged by a close friend" - you bring your swagger in to say what I've said holds no warrant.

But again - What I've expressed is what I felt about it - this is room to speak about if you support or do not support the direction they've taken the game and why -- moral outrage is warrant because I've supported the RE titles - as one person - apart of a collective of others - so that their are future titles - of similar nature.

...If you have to look at it in any other manner so the moral outrage makes sense - Take the "Voter" idea and apply it to if you've donated to a campaign because of what it stood for, and then the values of it changes -- thus being outraged by the happening.

Does this not warrant my strong concern with this new method they will present a story that I've invested in and followed since 1997?

Stories like these just make me think that Nintendo has completely abandoned its fan base and has started selling out (or at least even more so). Thankfully they still deliver on their games.
I think that if RE4 on Wii outsells RE: UC then Capcom should learn there lesson and not dish out shit.
RE4 has been considered to be almost gaming perfection by gamers and Capcom know this. This new game will reveal crucial details about the serie's story so why waste it all on a substandard game when they know that RE4's gameplay was so damn good?