Why I might never buy a Wii.

The Gamecube was unquestionably my favourite console of the last generation with updates of games that I never played on the N64 (I actually bought a brand new N64 with Mario 64 from Toys R Us about a year AFTER I had bought a Cube). The Xbox had some excellent ports of PC games but I didn't love that bulky piece of plastic, with its many violent games, as much as the cute Cube. Anyway, the shooter games that the Cube featured were better than the competition eg. the Resident Evil games and Metroid Prime.

The Xbox 360, sleeker than its predecessor, has got one important ingredient on board that has swayed a Cube fan like me- Rare. Meanwhile, the Wii has a game that is also out for the Cube anyway (The Twilight Princess) and a number of Ubisoft games that, Rayman Raving Rabbits aside, have ranged from average to poor.

Where's the inventiveness, atmosphere and sumptuous graphical effects of a Cube launch game like 'Luigi's Mansion'? Instead we have 'Wii Sports'- it's all about the controller, all about hooking the casual gamer.

The Cube had a game- Metroid Prime- that is one of the finest games I have ever played. Do you really think that Metroid Prime: Corruption (I bet they thought 'corruption'- that's a word that'll hook some gritty FPS Xbox fans), with its graphics looking no better than a 5 year old game, will have the same importance?

What about 'Super Mario Galaxy'? Possibly inspired by 'Luigi's Mansion' where Luigi travels to the moon on a shooting star. From the looks of it, Miyamoto has stuck with some kind of star/shine reward again- that's a surprise. Please don't tell me that I will have to repeat the same level over and over again as Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine made you do.

Where is the next 1080 Avalanche or Beyond Good and evil on the horizon? 'Sadness' on the Wii might be interesting.

I feel like the gaming world is polarised between ultra violence and family games.

Where's the other stuff?

( Edited on 21.01.2007 16:55 by Picnic )

( Edited on 21.01.2007 16:57 by Picnic )

I must admit, at the moment other than smash bros, I'm considering selling the Wii to fund getting an X360. The Wii does seem to have rlly jap/ fammily games in the majority, warioware/ play rlly rely on the multi fammily experiance more than the solo hardcore player. I've been biding my time waiting for decent Wii games by playing warcraft3, cus its teh pwnage. U cna get it for bout

Good points. Star. I think the only option if you're a serious gamer, is to get multiple consoles. No one console is going to a have a broad, varied range. Certainly not the Wii.

The Wii won't be worth buying till atleast a year after its launch.

Anyone remember the WOW that you got after seeing Star Wars Rougue Leader as a GC launch title?

Wii has nothing like that.

Rare doesn't really matter any more.

Before it was a real system seller (Ie N64), but now they're nowhere near they're former glory.

Okay they've had a few good titles lately (Viva Pinata, Kameo, Perfect Dark) but can anyone honestly say the 360 is worth it for these games.

At the moment however, I believe Wii60=FTW. I have My wii just now, which will keep me happy, and by Next Jebusmas I intend to have a 360, Halo 3, Gears of War, Live, the works as well as Galaxy, yet probably not Corruption.

One thing I don't understand is why people drool all over Metroid Prime. What was so great about it? Yes, the graphics were good, but the game itself was boring.

It has only just laucnhed!! Takes a while for a console to get fully going. After a year we will look back and laugh with a Guffaw!!

Oni-Ninja said:
Good points. Star. I think the only option if youre a serious gamer, is to get multiple consoles. No one console is going to a have a broad, varied range. Certainly not the Wii.

Some people don't have endless pockets, though.

If i could buy all 3 i would, but i can only afford one and no other consoles has Mario Galaxy, Metroid, Smash bros and Mario kart so i will just stick with nintendo.

yep suppose i am fanboy

There's no reason to not be a multi-platform gamer. Money would only be an issue if you are ridiculously poor. If you bide your time and wait for the right moment for hardware (buying an Xbox 360 right now would be a big mistake, for example, there's a price drop and a revision on the horizon) and software, and shop around for the best deals, then there's no reason why you couldn't have two of the three new consoles.

Gaming doesn't have to cost you as much as Microsoft/Nintendo/Sony would like it to, does it? Internet, pre-owned, waiting a period of time for price cuts, and a combination of all of the above can turn a single-console gamer into a multi-platform one, all on his/her current gaming budget, or for not much more.

For instance, I picked up Driver: Parallel Lines yesterday for my Xbox, for

Fanboys buy about 4-5 full price games a year on one console & a handheld, any deviation from that makes them feel uncomfortable. Being a lazy, irresponsible consumer is part of fanboyism.

How exactly do you know my buying habits, Zelda was the first game i payed full price for in a year and half.

I ain't ridiculously poor but you know i am 17 i don't want to be a loser and buy nothing but just games, quite sad if i did.

There is clothes, dvd's, the cost of social life, the money it takes to pay for my car insurance, petrol, next year university fees. Oni am i correct in saying your 21, right, well mate you must be minted or an incredibly lonely person.

Believe it or not games aren't the centre of my universe, i only really buy a handful of games each year now.

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The only games I would even consider paying full price for are PC games, simply as there is so much out there on the internet to guarentee you get

Hulkamania said:
How exactly do you know my buying habits, Zelda was the first game i payed full price for in a year and half.I aint ridiculously poor but you know i am 17 i dont want to be a loser and buy nothing but just games, quite sad if i did.There is clothes, dvds, the cost of social life, the money it takes to pay for my car insurance, petrol, next year university fees. Oni am i correct in saying your 21, right, well mate you must be minted or an incredibly lonely person.Believe it or not games arent the centre of my universe, i only really buy a handful of games each year now.( Edited on 21.01.2007 19:04 by Hulkamania )

DVD's? Pffft....
Clothes? Christmas supplies me
Social life? ....

I spose I'm sad then >_>

i have to agree with oni ninja. u can no longer just be a one system fanboy, its in practical. if u love nintendo then get the wii and wait for the biggies like mario, hopefully kid iccarus and smash bros, maybe even a new mario kart. but these are just new to existing franchises. we need more new franchises from nintendo to allow for more a more balanced line up. i own the 360 aswell and between the two systems i get my muched loved nintendo games and i get someother games that i would never play on the wii like gears of war, gotham street racing.

but the wii is the concole that i spend more time on and will buy more full price games for because at heart i do love nintendo games.

i guess to me its about getting the right balance to suit my gaming moods.

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great post by the way picnic. star from me.

There's no reason to not be a multi-platform gamer. Money would only be an issue if you are ridiculously poor. If you bide your time and wait for the right moment for hardware (buying an Xbox 360 right now would be a big mistake, for example, there's a price drop and a revision on the horizon) and software, and shop around for the best deals, then there's no reason why you couldn't have two of the three new consoles.

sounds about right, infact i'd say im a poor student. i scrape about

I'm not regretting my purchase of the Wii on launch as over the Christmas period it's had a lot of use with every family member getting involved and enjoying it so the quick 'party enjoyment' was worth the price tag.

However, I'm almost certain that if I didn't already have a 360 I would not have gone anywhere near it. I'm still very mucha fan of buttons ad d-pads for standard gaming and the Wiimote can be used for gimmicky things like Wiisports and Wario Ware: Smooth Moves. They wouldn't keep me entertained for long though and I'm glad I've got games such as Gears of War, Oblivion and Pro Evo 6 to play 'properly'.

I think 360 games are still the best value for money because if you take the games online you're basically getting a whole new lease of life and more than double the play time you get from it.

Grumbler said:
Fanboys buy about 4-5 full price games a year on one console & a handheld, any deviation from that makes them feel uncomfortable. Being a lazy, irresponsible consumer is part of fanboyism.

So people who can't afford to buy two bookshelves of games are fanboys...Right. I will make anote of that.

Hulkamania said:
How exactly do you know my buying habits, Zelda was the first game i payed full price for in a year and half.I aint ridiculously poor but you know i am 17 i dont want to be a loser and buy nothing but just games, quite sad if i did.There is clothes, dvds, the cost of social life, the money it takes to pay for my car insurance, petrol, next year university fees. Oni am i correct in saying your 21, right, well mate you must be minted or an incredibly lonely person.Believe it or not games arent the centre of my universe, i only really buy a handful of games each year now.

Oh, please! Yes, let's all listen to your ridiculous observation. If you only buy a handful of games a year, then you're more of a 'casual gamer' than a hardcore one, and if so, why are you here arguing this point with me? Also, congratulations on trying to make me out to be some kind of pathetic nerd.

I also have a life (music is my first love, hence me buying a

Grumbler said:
Fanboys buy about 4-5 full price games a year on one console & a handheld, any deviation from that makes them feel uncomfortable. Being a lazy, irresponsible consumer is part of fanboyism.

My friend buys at least a game a week.

I'm 15 so don't get tons of money - i'd rather buy 9 or 10 more games for the wii rather than getting a 360

ZeroSimon said:

Grumbler said:Fanboys buy about 4-5 full price games a year on one console & a handheld, any deviation from that makes them feel uncomfortable. Being a lazy, irresponsible consumer is part of fanboyism.

My friend buys at least a game a week.Im 15 so dont get tons of money - id rather buy 9 or 10 more games for the wii rather than getting a 360

Same predicment, I lack money.

I was bought the Wii by my famikly for christmas which was a brilliatn surprise. I probably would have been buying it around now anyway. I am 23 though and I have a career so i can afford. If I was like most of you either in school or college there is no way i could get one yet.

Anyway, the sriously good stuff is going to come out later for the Wii so there is no need to stress about anything plus if you are not getting a Wii why do you need to justify it to us?

xeke said:

Grumbler said:Fanboys buy about 4-5 full price games a year on one console & a handheld, any deviation from that makes them feel uncomfortable. Being a lazy, irresponsible consumer is part of fanboyism.

So people who cant afford to buy two bookshelves of games are fanboys...Right. I will make anote of that.

As in, they don't shop around. They buy the 4-5 full price games because they're too stupid to realise that you don't have to pay

Most of the people on this site spend as much on games as I do, you do realise that, don't you?

i dont know, i probably buy the same ammount of games. when it comes to how much i pay for games, i tend to try and spend no more then 10 or 15 quid a time. i've only spent

It really pisses me off when people complain about generally not having enough money for more than a handful of games a year when they're 16/17, 'because they're not rich'. At that age, how much disposable income you have relates almost completely to how much work you can be arsed to do and how sensible and pro-active you want to be about handling your money.

If you're tight all the time and wish you weren't: earn more, get a/another job, shop around more for stuff, sell more of your stuff, stop buying hundreds of crap DVDs you'll only watch once, don't spend so much on beer/food - you have nothing to show for it afterwards!

UK/US/Aus isn't Uganda!

Grumbler said:
It really pisses me off when people complain about generally not having enough money for more than a handful of games a year when theyre 16/17, because theyre not rich. At that age, how much disposable income you have relates almost completely to how much work you can be arsed to do and how sensible and pro-active you want to be about handling your money.If youre tight all the time and wish you werent: earn more, get a/another job, shop around more for stuff, sell more of your stuff, stop buying hundreds of crap DVDs youll only watch once, dont spend so much on beer/food - you have nothing to show for it afterwards!UK/US/Aus isnt Uganda!

Grumbler said:
It really pisses me off when people complain about generally not having enough money for more than a handful of games a year when theyre 16/17, because theyre not rich. At that age, how much disposable income you have relates almost completely to how much work you can be arsed to do and how sensible and pro-active you want to be about handling your money.If youre tight all the time and wish you werent: earn more, get a/another job, shop around more for stuff, sell more of your stuff, stop buying hundreds of crap DVDs youll only watch once, dont spend so much on beer/food - you have nothing to show for it afterwards!UK/US/Aus isnt Uganda!

Uganda someone knows a thing or two about the Last King of Scotland.

I have to pay for car insurance and petrol seriously for a guy who is doing his Alevels and has a part time job in TESCO's, i literally get my pay check and boom it's away, you could just be spoilt little rascal. What wrong with going out alot better than being some mess who sits around trying to spot a fanboy to lambast for liking SONY/MS/Nintendo too much. Games don't create a social life.

By the way East Timor is the poorest country in the world (just above Australia)