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Im am not sure if that high price may be because of some Rev feature, meaning higher priced games or what. I dont know.....
Smilie Would you pay that much for a Game....would ya??
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Retail sites dont yet know the prices of the revolutions games.
Imo it is just a set price so that when the real prices and titles are released and confirmed they can set them accordingly without having to charge those who start making pre-orders Smilie

It's a complete guess and there is no evidence to suggest Nintendo are raising prices, on the other hand there is every logical shred of information indicating prices will not get higher.

Am I the only person here a tad pissed off that Microsoft can just waltz into this fine industry, take a whopping $4 Billion loss on a console, tell everyone that game prices must be higher and people actually buy into it!

Gone are the glory days of the SNES and Mega Drive Smilie

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But if they did retail for that price, here in Britain they would prob be around

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Nintendo is keeping their costs down to target the casual audience as well as hardcore. "All Access Gaming" is their new 'slogan' for a reason. Remember how much cheaper the GCN was to the competition. Nintendo aren't going to follow in Bill Gates footsteps.

Nintendo aren't going to follow in Bill Gates footsteps.

Exactally. DS games will be a ful

I have a feeling microsoft is going to succeed next gen...back on topic. Games are already too expensive...plz no more

so why should Nintendo have to raise their game prices as well as Microsoft?

Beacause the cost of development is rising.. and a lot of development companies are going out of business. High prices are needed to keep the industry growing.

If 3rd parties can sell their games for

Not if you get a short game

Think more before buying then. Or go second hand.

Nintendo have tried to make the cost of games as low as possible for developers. So a genuine price increase would have to be for profit reasons, or to stop games appearing "less" than 360/PS3 games.

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If 3rd parties can sell their games for

Nintendo have tried to make the cost of games as low as possible for developers.

Really? I thought a proprietary format and (at last time I heard) the highest licensing costs, as well as a very hefty quality control process would be a lot of unnessesary cost for developers...

Developers need more profit to stay afloat- to stop companies like Elixer and Bullfrog, who had original, great, ideas from going under. The only way companies like that are suviving just now is if they get backing from one of the big publishers.. Big Blue Box being a satellite of Lionhead, for example.

Really? I thought a proprietary format and (at last time I heard) the highest licensing costs, as well as a very hefty quality control process would be a lot of unnessesary cost for developers...

Well yeh, but Nintendo are changing. I mean, the GC disks were a big improvement over carts *waits for a disk vd carts arguement* and I think the high licensing cost stopped when Iwata took over. Plus, Nintendo have said that they want games to be simpler and cost less in the future (ie, for the Revolution) Smilie

I mean, the GC disks were a big improvement over carts

Yes- but they can only be manufactured at Nintendo plants. That means there is no chance of a developer manufacturing cheaper discs.. and also the inability to use an economy of scale for a company like EA.

I honestly don't buy this whole "the cost is rising" business.

The average Nintendo or Sony game costs E250,000 according to a recent gamesindustry story, the infrastructure is in place bya large extent.

Could someone please explain how games are taking longer to make resulting in higher costs when the 360 has such an extensive range of launch titles compile in less than a year (bar Kameo and PD, that is). I smell bullshit personally.

Yes- but they can only be manufactured at Nintendo plants.

I think you'll find it's Panasonic Smilie

Edit.

And to add to the alleged cost of unique discs, I'm very sure the extra few pennies per disc is EASILY made back from the lack of piracy!

[ Edited by nin10do on 2005/6/18 13:34 ]

Barry Lewis [ nin10do :: General Writer :: Feature Writer :: Fountain of Industry Statistics ]
"We're mentalist psychic Scots, which means we can read your mind. If you're lying, your head explodes and we laugh."

Could someone please explain how games are taking longer to make resulting in higher costs

The art aspect is the part of development that is requiring exponentially more time with each new generation.. programming is getting more complicated, but not at the same rate as art.

More artists are needed for higher resolution textures, models, and all the new groundbreaking effects. Stuff like normal mapping is incredibly time consuming, as it requires such massivly high res. models.

And to add to the alleged cost of unique discs, I'm very sure the extra few pennies per disc is EASILY made back from the lack of piracy!

Would those people have bought games in the first place, anyway?

I don't see the prices rising to be honest, at least for Nintendo games. If they're lowering the development costs as their speeches seem to suggest, why would the prices rise?

On the other hand, shops may rise them anyway...

It would seem likely the prices of games will be higher the next generation as game development becomes more costly and time consuming.

Maybe the proprietary format costs a little more, but they are designing the machine to be easy to program, and to allow developers to avoid some of the staff and cost increases needed for 360/PS3 games.

Besides which, isnt Revolution using DVD? Compared to Billy Ray Cirus discs I would have thought that was much lower cost.

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Besides which, isnt Revolution using DVD? Compared to Billy Ray Cirus discs I would have thought that was much lower cost.

Sorry; I was refering to the GC discs. DVD is a good move for cheaper costs, yeah.

That part of the question I knew the answer to, but I still don't believe it's that big a deal. Again, explain if development is taking so much longer how can Microsoft tout such an impressively large release list when kits wont have even been out for a year. I smell bullshit.

Barry Lewis [ nin10do :: General Writer :: Feature Writer :: Fountain of Industry Statistics ]
"We're mentalist psychic Scots, which means we can read your mind. If you're lying, your head explodes and we laugh."

Again, explain if development is taking so much longer how can Microsoft tout such an impressively large release list when kits wont have even been out for a year. I smell bullshit.

You don't need a dev kit to model a massively high resolution model.

That part of the question I knew the answer to, but I still don't believe it's that big a deal. Again, explain if development is taking so much longer how can Microsoft tout such an impressively large release list when kits wont have even been out for a year. I smell bullshit.

This is something that has been puzzling me as well. Plus, haven't game prices been generally falling and not rising? Didn't SNES games used to cost ~

Msen. But the vast majority of the games were only started on this year all the same - sorry, we don't know the exact details of these things but we can look at the physical details. Microsoft say games will take longer and thus cost more, games take only a year (bar a few exceptions) to make.

fenno. Indeed they have. One of the biggest reasons for falling costs is that the industry has grown and thus sales are higher. That and Nintendo had their ass sued for illegal inflation of prices, something I hope happens to Microsoft soon.

In general I wouldn't mind if Kameo or PD0 cost more, they have soaked up a load of cash - but if the PGR game at launch costs more then that is immoral and a scam. The more I think about it the more I know I wont be supporting Microsoft, at the very best I'll be a bargain bin gamer supporting local economy and people - I couldn't stomache having my cash go straight to Microsoft. Call me a daft hater if you must but IMO they are seriously in danger of ruining the industry (in my terms) and that's something I will not support.

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"We're mentalist psychic Scots, which means we can read your mind. If you're lying, your head explodes and we laugh."

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