News: New 3DS Delay for EU & US Explained by Iwata Page 1

Insanoflex 31.10.2014#1

using his logic, nintendo would make more profit localizing fatal frame 5 to the western territories.

Luna Eriksson 31.10.2014#2

What I think this is really about is that Iwata wants to wait until next fiscal year to have a steadier moneyflow as Nintendo already is looking good this year. That is the only logical explanation I can find for this delay as I see no one I know who is thinking about buying a 3ds due to that it soon will become obsolete.

Also it is "better" to wait to launch here in the west it until there are some games out for it to get more early adopters which generates more cash as otherwise people are more eager to wait for a pricedrop as seen with the 3ds.

Just my two cents, though, I might be wrong.

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Insanoflex 31.10.2014#3

he will be missing the holiday rush.
tsk tsk tsk.

RudyC3 31.10.2014#4

I DO want a New 3DS personally simply because I have a bunch of games for my 3DS that I'm itching to play/replay and which are better played with the circle pad pro, and I don't like the thing because it's too bulky.

I also want a New 3DS because I wasn't comfortable with the 3D sweetspot problem from the start, making me play in 2D most of the time despite the fact that I do want to play in 3D with certain games where the graphics simply look far more amazing with it turned on.

I also want a New 3DS simply because I'm getting tired of playing on a tiny screen and I was already considering an XL model... but not that the NEW 3DS XL is coming, I'd rather invest in the new and better one Smilie .

Also, my 3DS has had a dead speaker for over two years, which has made it pretty much impossible to play without headphones one, so I want a replacement for that reason too.

And of course, Xenoblade being one of my favourites RPGs of all time, I don't want to miss out on that when it comes our way Smilie . All of this to say that I will be delighted to get my hands on a New 3DS XL when it finally lands in our part of the world. I'm not "in a hurry" to get it, but when it does arrive, I'll want one for sure Smilie .

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Flynnie 01.11.2014#5

Nothing to do with overstocked 3DS inventory over in Europe then? I'd say that's the reason. They want to clear out the old inventories in stores across Europe and the US over this Christmas period and also push for Wii U sales.

I have been building my 3DS library up! I have 24 games on this amazing system plus eShop games too! I really would love to replay games in 3D and with the new Cstick. Namely Resident Evil revalations, metal gear and kid Icarus. Does Luigis mansion support circle pad pro? That would be useful...

I'd also love to play Starfox 64 and Smash with the new 3D.

after my hands on with the units I'm definitely swayed to the smaller unit but I'm going to hold off on launch I reckon. Mainly because I'm scared of transferring my eShop stuff from a UK unit to an Australian one. I know It's PAL-PAL but it scares me a little so I'm going to wait for someone else to do it first and puts up a YouTube video on it!

RudyC3 01.11.2014#6

Flynnie said:
I really would love to replay games in 3D and with the new Cstick. Namely Resident Evil revalations, metal gear and kid Icarus. Does Luigis mansion support circle pad pro? That would be useful...

I don't think so for Luigi's Mansion. I think it doesn't support it.

Kid Icarus does not support it though, I'm pretty sure of that (Sakurai said they tried to implement it but ran out of time... would have been good to have such support :'( )

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Faust_D 01.11.2014#7

Kid Icarus supports the CPP, just not a dual analog setup I believe. It's more a 'for lefties' thing.

Luigi 2 definitely doesn't support it, but that doesn't much need it anyway, imo.

Oh well, I will be buying a New 3DS (probs XL) when it eventually gets here. Investing in housing and music at the moment, so I can wait.

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RudyC3 01.11.2014#8

Faust D. Strooijer said:
Kid Icarus supports the CPP, just not a dual analog setup I believe. It's more a 'for lefties' thing.

Aaaaah yes, that might be the case. I sorta remember lefty people having to make do with controlling Pit with the ABXY buttons and not being too content about it. I can't imagine it being a very comfy solution though (whether playing with the CPP or tiny nub of the NEW 3DS to control pit with the right analog stick)

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Flynnie 01.11.2014#9

And I'm a lefty so that's why I'm hoping it will work in Kid Icarus.

Although im not actually sure how comfortable it will be!

Faust_D 01.11.2014#10

I'm a lefty too but I play KIcarus right-handedly using the thumbstylus that came with the original DS, heh. Though I hardly have a problem controlling it with a stylus either. Then again I'm left-handed but play guitar right-handed as well so I guess I'm just an odd duck in general.

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Insanoflex 01.11.2014#11

maybe they are removing region locking for the US and EU regions?

its a stretch, but weirder shit has happened... i mean did anyone expect nintendo to partner up with fucking PLAYBOY to market Bayonetta 2?

Flynnie 02.11.2014#12

I only really enjoyed playing Mario 64 with the thumbstrap, other than that it hasn't really been comfortable for anything else.

I'm an odd lefty too, I still do a lot of things with my right hand. I was always confused why people made a fuss about the Wii remote/nunchuck set up. As I have always been conditioned to use a joystick with my left thumb, I just don't understand who would ever want to do that with their right thumb!

Financials aside I think there more things like licensing and games ratings that Nintendo are worried about. If only the BBFC, USK, PEGI and who ever else could combine into one organisation. Something like what ELPSA was.

i remember that the new upgraded version of the DS game "Moon" has been held up releasing in Europe due to this. I guess imports skew their sales data in other ways as well such as not knowing how popular a product is in a certain region. For example if Europeans imported a game like Fire Emblem from the US and then no one bought it on release in Europe then they might think of it as a lost cause...maybe that's why Awakening did so well? I have to say that both GBA games of mine were from the US.

RudyC3 02.11.2014#13

Flynnie said:
Financials aside I think there more things like licensing and games ratings that Nintendo are worried about. If only the BBFC, USK, PEGI and who ever else could combine into one organisation. Something like what ELPSA was.
i remember that the new upgraded version of the DS game "Moon" has been held up releasing in Europe due to this. I guess imports skew their sales data in other ways as well such as not knowing how popular a product is in a certain region. For example if Europeans imported a game like Fire Emblem from the US and then no one bought it on release in Europe then they might think of it as a lost cause...maybe that's why Awakening did so well? I have to say that both GBA games of mine were from the US.

Those are two reasons that I had been thinking of as well. I mean I concluded that those might be the reasons.

I say, at least, for games which you know won't get a physical release in all regions, make the GAMES region free, and region lock those which are going to be released in several regions. Lock accordingly, like what was done on XBox 360 games! That way everyone's happy! I can't think of any valid reason to keep region-locking in place when there's that option possible too! Japanese-only games that would be very niche elsewhere, make them region free! The people who import are not people who are likely to complain about age ratings anyway, am I wrong? And if they worry that people might get confused and end up buying games which are region locked and unplayable for them well there, again, I'd say the people who import will KNOW about the possibility and try to inform themselves before importing I'm sure.

There will always be people unhappy anyway, it's impossible to make everyone content, but there's always a possibility of making as many people content as possible, and there sure are ways to remove region-locking in some way that won't be detrimental to their business as well as the gaming community's satisfaction Smilie .

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[quote][b]Flynnie said:[/b]<br/>Financials aside I think there more things like licensing and games ratings that Nintendo are worried about. If only the BBFC, USK, PEGI and who ever else could combine into one organisation. Something like what ELPSA was.

i remember that the new upgraded version of the DS game "Moon" has been held up releasing in Europe due to this. I guess imports skew their sales data in other ways as well such as not knowing how popular a product is in a certain region. For example if Europeans imported a game like Fire Emblem from the US and then no one bought it on release in Europe then they might think of it as a lost cause...maybe that's why Awakening did so well? I have to say that both GBA games of mine were from the US. [/quote]
Those are two reasons that I had been thinking of as well. I mean I concluded that those might be the reasons.

I say, at least, for games which you know won't get a physical release in all regions, make the GAMES region free, and region lock those which are going to be released in several regions. Lock accordingly, like what was done on XBox 360 games! That way everyone's happy! I can't think of any valid reason to keep region-locking in place when there's that option possible too! Japanese-only games that would be very niche elsewhere, make them region free! The people who import are not people who are likely to complain about age ratings anyway, am I wrong? And if they worry that people might get confused and end up buying games which are region locked and unplayable for them well there, again, I'd say the people who import will KNOW about the possibility and try to inform themselves before importing I'm sure.

There will always be people unhappy anyway, it's impossible to make everyone content, but there's always a possibility of making as many people content as possible, and there sure are ways to remove region-locking in some way that won't be detrimental to their business as well as the gaming community's satisfaction ;).

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Luna Eriksson 02.11.2014#14

Fully agree with the region locking issue. They need to stop region lock games that are not planned to get released in the west. There are several games I would have bought if it was not for the fact that I would have to get another 3ds specifically for those titles.

In worst case they could just release the Japanese games on the e-shop as they are with EU/NA regional locks if creating unlocked or EU/NA regional physical copies is too risky. I would be fine with it as long as there was a warning text: "This game is in Japanese" to avoid unhappy customers. This is really what I see would be the greatest thing to do with the eshop. Too many great games I would have to import as it is now and I do not feel like getting an extra console.

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RudyC3 02.11.2014#15

Andre Eriksson said:
In worst case they could just release the Japanese games on the e-shop as they are with EU/NA regional locks if creating unlocked or EU/NA regional physical copies is too risky. I would be fine with it as long as there was a warning text: "This game is in Japanese" to avoid unhappy customers. This is really what I see would be the greatest thing to do with the eshop. Too many great games I would have to import as it is now and I do not feel like getting an extra console.

As much as I agree that the eshop is a sign of things to come for the future of gaming... I'm sticking to physical copies as much as possible so i'd like for them to at least drop it on cartridges Smilie

. Sorry if that's a selfish wish of mine haha ^^.

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Luna Eriksson 03.11.2014#16

RudyC3 said:
Andre Eriksson said:
In worst case they could just release the Japanese games on the e-shop as they are with EU/NA regional locks if creating unlocked or EU/NA regional physical copies is too risky. I would be fine with it as long as there was a warning text: "This game is in Japanese" to avoid unhappy customers. This is really what I see would be the greatest thing to do with the eshop. Too many great games I would have to import as it is now and I do not feel like getting an extra console.

As much as I agree that the eshop is a sign of things to come for the future of gaming... I'm sticking to physical copies as much as possible so i'd like for them to at least drop it on cartridges . Sorry if that's a selfish wish of mine haha ^^.

What I present is a worst case, but still acceptable, scenario. Smilie

My dream is also releases of western physical copies of those wonderful games, or at least removal of regional locks.

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Flynnie 03.11.2014#17

I remember when people were asking for games like Jump superstars to be brought to the west the developer mentioned that getting the licenses for game in other countries was just a wrangled legal mess. In honestly I was pleasantly surprised when Tastsunoko vs capcom came out over in the west.

i think it's things like this that Nintendo have put region locking in.

With regards to age ratings I can imagine that this is the reason Nintendo are cautious. Being seen as a family company I think they want to maintain their integrity a bit and want to make sure mature content or even teen content stays like that in each respective country. I'm surprised that Fire Emblem awakening only got a 12+ In the UK but I just recently bought Bravely Default in Australia and that's rated as Mature? I mean there was a lot of adult innuendo in fire emblem...

RudyC3 said:
Andre Eriksson said:
In worst case they could just release the Japanese games on the e-shop as they are with EU/NA regional locks if creating unlocked or EU/NA regional physical copies is too risky. I would be fine with it as long as there was a warning text: "This game is in Japanese" to avoid unhappy customers. This is really what I see would be the greatest thing to do with the eshop. Too many great games I would have to import as it is now and I do not feel like getting an extra console.

As much as I agree that the eshop is a sign of things to come for the future of gaming... I'm sticking to physical copies as much as possible so i'd like for them to at least drop it on cartridges . Sorry if that's a selfish wish of mine haha ^^.

I have been increasingly vocal about my opinions about microtransactions, DLC (to an extent) and downloadable games. Unfortunately Rudy kids these days don't see the benefit of having the physical medium (collectable/resellable) , they think DLC is a good idea where I see it as companies purposely taking content out of games to exploit gamers wallets (although Mario Kart 8 is a positive example of true additional content) but most of all eShop games tend to be more expensive than the physical medium which is the most disgusting part. Nintendo's online webstore is even more expensive than retailers in the UK which shows that we need those retailers to survive before we truely see price rises. (Which has been a long time coming).

I do see the benefit of releasing older generation games on the eShop but if I had the choice of buying the physical copy of Super Smash Bros Wii U for £39.99 or downloading it for the same price then I know where my money would go.

one last point is that after a while you dont know if that product will be able to support the game purchased. For example I have Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 on iOS but ever since iOS 6 the game has failed to play and activision have receded support for the game and eventually removed it from the App Store. Case in point I can't play that game any more...I don't like be held at the balls like that!

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I remember when people were asking for games like Jump superstars to be brought to the west the developer mentioned that getting the licenses for game in other countries was just a wrangled legal mess. In honestly I was pleasantly surprised when Tastsunoko vs capcom came out over in the west.

i think it's things like this that Nintendo have put region locking in.

With regards to age ratings I can imagine that this is the reason Nintendo are cautious. Being seen as a family company I think they want to maintain their integrity a bit and want to make sure mature content or even teen content stays like that in each respective country. I'm surprised that Fire Emblem awakening only got a 12+ In the UK but I just recently bought Bravely Default in Australia and that's rated as Mature? I mean there was a lot of adult innuendo in fire emblem...

[quote][b]RudyC3 said:[/b]<br/>[quote][b]Andre Eriksson said:[/b]<br/>In worst case they could just release the Japanese games on the e-shop as they are with EU/NA regional locks if creating unlocked or EU/NA regional physical copies is too risky. I would be fine with it as long as there was a warning text: "This game is in Japanese" to avoid unhappy customers. This is really what I see would be the greatest thing to do with the eshop. Too many great games I would have to import as it is now and I do not feel like getting an extra console.
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As much as I agree that the eshop is a sign of things to come for the future of gaming... I'm sticking to physical copies as much as possible so i'd like for them to at least drop it on cartridges :P. Sorry if that's a selfish wish of mine haha ^^.[/quote]

I have been increasingly vocal about my opinions about microtransactions, DLC (to an extent) and downloadable games. Unfortunately Rudy kids these days don't see the benefit of having the physical medium (collectable/resellable) , they think DLC is a good idea where I see it as companies purposely taking content out of games to exploit gamers wallets (although Mario Kart 8 is a positive example of true additional content) but most of all eShop games tend to be more expensive than the physical medium which is the most disgusting part. Nintendo's online webstore is even more expensive than retailers in the UK which shows that we need those retailers to survive before we truely see price rises. (Which has been a long time coming).

I do see the benefit of releasing older generation games on the eShop but if I had the choice of buying the physical copy of Super Smash Bros Wii U for £39.99 or downloading it for the same price then I know where my money would go.

one last point is that after a while you dont know if that product will be able to support the game purchased. For example I have Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 on iOS but ever since iOS 6 the game has failed to play and activision have receded support for the game and eventually removed it from the App Store. Case in point I can't play that game any more...I don't like be held at the balls like that!

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RudyC3 03.11.2014#18

Flynnie said:
one last point is that after a while you dont know if that product will be able to support the game purchased. For example I have Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 on iOS but ever since iOS 6 the game has failed to play and activision have receded support for the game and eventually removed it from the App Store. Case in point I can't play that game any more...I don't like be held at the balls like that!

That's my main reason for preferring physical copies too, I like the idea that if tomorrow my console breaks when it's already obsolete and not supported anymore, I can just buy another unit and they'll work on it. I don't have to worry about my SNES games not working on my SNES anymore several years down the line. What do you risk? The save battery being dead perhaps, but that can be replaced with minimum technical know-how.

Consoles are good for this because the hardware doesn't change (a 3DS game will always run on any 3DS) and software does not suffer incompatibility issues when OS updates are issued... at least nothing major, I know there have been rare instance, but within a few days, the game was made compatible again through another update. Whereas phones come with new versions of iOS's or Android that can render an old game unusable, just like old DOS games have trouble running on Windows without a little push from stuff like DOSBOX. Maybe the same kind of thing will arrive on phones and tablets eventually, but we're still witnessing the infancy of what they may become I guess.

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Flynnie 03.11.2014#19

And that's the best thing about having a dedicated games console Smilie

The fact that the 3DS has a 10 year old game library is quite phenomenal when you come to think of it. Would be the icing on the cake if they would release GBA games for it. Although I have every GBA game I want in my physical GBA collection anyway. But good for the community if Ninty put it on the eShop

I am just putting this idea out there, but if Monster Hunter is what launches this game out in the East then what could we see launch it in the west....

....man that Samus amiibo might be worth getting Smilie

( Edited 03.11.2014 10:08 by Flynnie )