New Play Control! - What GameCube Games Should Return on Wii?

By Adam Riley 21.02.2009 58

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Nintendo has already released two games from its 'New Play Control!' range in Japan, with both GameCube versions of Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat, Mario Power Tennis and Pikmin (reviewed here) not only being re-released on Wii, but coming complete with various changes to make them more appealing for the new wider audience that Nintendo has so far attracted. Other games due to launch under this revamped range in the coming months are Pikmin 2, Chibi-robo! and the two Metroid Prime games from Retro Studios. But what other GameCube classics should be added to the roster and how could they be modified for Wii? The Cubed3 team sat down and mulled over some of the prime contenders, including a few gems from publishers other than Nintendo...


Adam Riley :: Senior Editor


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Eternal Darkness (Nintendo / Silicon Knights)


Silicon Knights and Nintendo's joint venture is still talked about today as being on of the best GameCube titles out there, and one of the most psychologically disturbing experiences, full stop, with numerous clever ideas mixed in to fool gamers into thinking they were going crazy. Other than using the Nunchuk for controlling Alex Roivas's movement through the gripping adventure, the fighting elements could take an over-the-shoulder viewpoint with pointer controls for shooting, as seen in RE4: Wii Edition. In terms of new scares or confusing elements to tie in with the game's innovative Sanity Meter feature, the developer could feed strange messages to the player via the Wii Remote's speaker - creepy whispering or cries of anguish that would send a chill down their spine, or footsteps coming from behind, yet upon turning round there is nothing there. Additionally, if Alex becomes stunned by a monster, her movements could become sluggish, only returning to normal by shaking both the Remote and Nunchuk, as if literally shrugging off the daze. This is a key title that needs a second chance, if only to garner enough interest to spur on the development of its long-in-the-planning sequel, and a Wii revamp seems ideal.


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killer7 (Capcom / Grasshopper Manufacture)


Goichi Suda and the team at Grasshopper Manufacture came blasting into the mainstream public eye thanks to killer7, a dark, warped journey that made up part of the now illustrious 'Capcom 5' line-up on GameCube. One particular element that made the game so atmospheric was its use of sound effects and haunting voices, all of which could be emitted from the Wii Remote speaker for increased effect. Since many saw the gameplay of killer7 as being akin to that of a traditional point-and-click adventure on a PC anyway, the obvious change would be to include pointer controls throughout, helping to make it far easier than before to guide the killer7 group around the impressively stylised and gruesome locations, carrying out their disturbing practices all in the name of the US Government that wants to bring down the evil Heaven Smile organisation. Also, targeting of enemies always seemed like something out of an on-rail shooter such as House of the Dead, so again the Wii Remote would be a perfect match for the slaughtering aspect of proceedings. All-in-all, if Capcom fails to resurrect killer7 on Wii it would most definitely be a huge opportunity missed!


Jorge Baoh :: Founder of C3


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The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker (Nintendo)


This one definitely has lots of potential for a good old Wii Remote revamp, and a great game to support the controls. With Zelda's transition into waggles and pointing in Twilight Princess, the poor hero received mixed reviews from fans. Most loved the ability to literally swipe at enemies or the pinpoint bow aiming. Granted, it is not quite the same as brandishing a real meaty sword or feeling the strain from a bow, but it definitely showed how this approach could be tweaked to improve the Wind Waker experience. The obvious application would be the sword and shield, bow, and so on, yet you can also find some less useful, but possibly equally as fun, things to do: moving the Wind Waker around, a Twilight Princess-inspired menu system, picking up and throwing items - the list goes on. Coupled with the Nunchuck for movement, defence and Z-targeting, you would have a fresh experience for what is arguably still a true classic.


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Super Mario Sunshine (Nintendo)


Nintendo seems to love to point and squirt at things, and have toyed with the idea in a couple of games - from a Super Mario Sunshine parody in WarioWare to a handful of mini-games in Mario's latest 'Party' outing. What can a Wii Remote do to enhance the Sunshine, though? Squirt! Aim with the Wii Remote and blast jets of water, up, down, side-to-side - the freedom to aim and move with what could be a more natural control set-up would definitely enhance the experience. The plumber's latest escapade saw him blast into space with the Wii Remote/Nunchuk combination, and it all worked exceedingly well - moving was fluid, jumping was easy, and the whole pointing and moving around aspects proved to be exceedingly effortless. It may have looked odd, and seemed harder than if it had convention controls, but what Galaxy proved is that Sunshine can most definitely be rejuvenated and given a second chance to 'Wow' those who failed to appreciate its brilliance back in 2002.


James Temperton :: Deputy Editor


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Luigi's Mansion (Nintendo)


I extolled the virtues of this title from the second I played it numerous years ago, and I will keep extolling until the cows come home. It was the perfect demonstration of what the GameCube was capable of and it can be the perfect 'New Play Control!' title too. It just seems too obvious to ignore. The Wii Remote would obviously be the torch/vacuum and you would shake the Nunchuk around to suck more or less furiously, depending on what is required at the time. Pulling the Wii Remote back sharply to swing ghosts around and pull them undoubtedly sounds like it would be great fun. Nintendo could even perhaps go as far as adding in an online element for Top Scores and leader-boards that show off who has collected the most in-game coins.


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1080 Avalanche (Nintendo / NST)


Admittedly the GameCube version was not quite up to the standard of the N64 original, but NST's creation is still crying out for a new lease of life via the Wii's 'New Play Control!' range. The decent reviews that Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip saw recently is surely reason enough for Nintendo to crack this one out, complete with Balance Board-related shenanigans. There is not much more to say on the matter, really. Simply lean left, right, lean, backwards, all the while having loads of cheesy 1080-related thrills and spills. Oh, and a better multiplayer would not go amiss either...


Mike Mason :: Reviews Editor


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Cubivore: Survival of the Fittest (Nintendo / Saru Brunei)


Cubivore is an interesting one. There is not really too much you could do with Cubivore. The game is based around evolution and climbing up the food chain - accurately portrayed by the protagonist doing nothing but eating, fighting and mating (not on-screen and not all at the same time, obviously!). Nintendo could bump up the rather basic visuals, throw in a couple of online battle modes, plus include a few extra touches such as Wii Remote speaker functionality for growls. However, more than likely it would be a case of not making significant alterations, unless Nintendo decided to perhaps switch the attack button with a flick of the Wii Remote; although this may not be such a favourable idea. No, the reason this has been picked is simply because Nintendo never supported it on a worldwide basis, leave Atlus to give it a limited US release, whilst it never had a chance to shine in Europe the first time round. That should be reason enough as it is hilarious, intelligent and plays very well to boot!


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Yoot Saito's Odama (Nintendo / Vivarium)


Quirky little Odama did not do massively well as a GameCube title due to it arriving very late in the system's lifespan. Yet creator Yoot Saito (who came up with the idea of the Wii Remote's speaker) has already expressed interest in a potential Wii version, showing off a prototype at the Japanese Media Arts festival a couple of years back. In the prototype, microphone controls had been replaced with the Wii Remote's pointer, which whilst sure to make the game more accessible, why not include both methods of input? The encouragement feature that was dropped from the first game involved other players beating on Donkey Konga Bongos, so why not re-implement this feature into the game, utilising the Wii Speak deviced so that those watching can cheer you on? The Nunchuk and Wii Remote's trigger/shoulder button combination is simply ideal for pinball mechanics as well, as shown in the Gottlieb Pinball Classics game on Wii.


Karn Bianco :: Previews Editor


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Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II (Nintendo / Factor 5)


As a launch title for the GameCube, Rogue Leader was received extremely well by both fans and critics alike. The game's stunning visuals and audio can still hold their own against modern Wii games, despite being more than seven years old. Additionally, the action-packed combat would truly shine with a Wii Remote-centric control scheme for pinpoint laser-firing accuracy. In fact, why stop at Rogue Leader? Rebel Strike may not have been as successful as its predecessor, but bundle the two together, along with a Virtual Console release for Rogue Squadron, and you have got a meaty Star Wars package that many would find hard to resist. The odds may be slimmer than ever following the talk of Factor 5's closure, but the possibilities are certainly intriguing.


Matt Evans :: General Writer


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Geist (Nintendo / n-Space)


Not quite sure went wrong with this game. Was it that the GameCube could not handle the gameplay engine? Was it the not-so-perfect controls, or was the concept a little too different but did not have the backing of the Metroid franchise to save it? Well it does not matter because the game was good and had potential, potential that could be realised by the Wii. Imagine playing it with the First-Person Shooter controls tightened to suit the Wii Remote, similar to how Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. Consider for a moment being able to manipulate that dog bowl with the accuracy afforded by the Wii MotionPlus sensors. Ponder over being able to scare guards and doctors by creeping up behind them in ghost form and gently breathing or whispering into the Wii Speak peripheral...Okay that may sound rather disturbing and creepy, but it is still an idea that could help edge Geist towards the brilliance initially hinted at when still in the early stages of development. Most Wii owners are going to have more than one controller and with Wi-Fi support you could not ask for a better multiplayer platform to release it on. And above all it is a proper mature game, and would sit nicely next to the likes of House of the Dead: Overkill, MadWorld and The Conduit.


As you can see from the above, there are definitely many different classic games that would be ideal for the New Play Control! series, yet there were so many others that crossed our minds. For example, how about the duo of The Legends of Zelda: Four Swords Adventure and Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles? They could definitely work very well, using the DS-Wii wireless link-up play instead of hooking lots of GBA systems to the GameCube. Cubivore was brought up due to its lack of support in the West, but what about GiFTPiA, the quirky communication RPG that Skip Ltd released in Japan before working on Chibi-robo!, and was planned for a US/PAL release for years before finally being quietly shelved. Or maybe Chunsoft's Japanese-only online RPG experience 'Homeland' could be given a new lease of life using the Wi-Fi network. Then there is Burnout 2, which still holds up as being one of the strongest entries in Criterion racing series and would definitely benefit from the Wii Wheel and motion sensing for steering. European RPG fans that missed out on the superb Baten Kaitos Origins could see that and its predecessor return, perhaps with a flick of the Wii Remote shooting off cards during battle, Donkey Konga's bongo antics could be substituted for various shakes of the Wii Remote and Nunchuk, and Kururin Squash's spinning puzzle gameplay seems made to fit the motion controls of the Wii Remote. Finally, Treasure's Ikaruga cannot be forgotten about either.

What would you like to see arrive on the New Play Control! range? Let us know your thoughts on the ideas above, as well as on other titles we may have overlooked...

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i dont like the fact that im seeing GC games on the Wii. i played all those games back when they were released the first time. adding a new control scheme doesent justify it for me. £29! thats £10 less than what they were originally retailing for.

does anybody else think that nintendo are using this "play on Wii" range as a substiute for the lack of "hardcore" games?

( Edited 14.12.2012 08:58 by Guest )

wind waker and super mario sunshine and luigi's mansion these three games should 100% come back to the wii

( Edited 14.12.2012 08:58 by Guest )



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MiiWiiKing said:
i dont like the fact that im seeing GC games on the Wii. i played all those games back when they were released the first time. adding a new control scheme doesent justify it for me. £29! thats £10 less than what they were originally retailing for.

Well, these games aren't for me and you, they're for those that didn't own a Gamecube. I can't defend the pricing, but at the very least it's made clear that they are ports.

( Edited 14.12.2012 08:58 by Guest )

^^ but they are already on Wii, for alot cheaper than £30. granted they dont have Wii controls but if the controls were good enough then, they should be good enough now.



( Edited 14.12.2012 08:58 by Guest )

True, but most of them are rare and expensive. The New Play Control version of Chibi-Robo will undoubtedly be cheaper than what the GC version is going for now.

Phoenixus said:
MiiWiiKing said:
i dont like the fact that im seeing GC games on the Wii. i played all those games back when they were released the first time. adding a new control scheme doesent justify it for me. £29! thats £10 less than what they were originally retailing for.

Well, these games aren\'t for me and you, they\'re for those that didn\'t own a Gamecube. I can\'t defend the pricing, but at the very least it\'s made clear that they are ports.

so true, but from what i have read in this thread seems like alot of people who have played these games b4 would be suckered into purchasing the same game for \"waggaly\" controls, its silly

( Edited 22.02.2009 13:22 by MiiWiiKing )

Phoenixus said:
True, but most of them are rare and expensive. The New Play Control version of Chibi-Robo will undoubtedly be cheaper than what the GC version is going for now.

games like chibi robo i can understand, they came late in the GC life cycle and deserve a re-release but games like mario tennis, Wind Waker dont need it

I think maybe Wind Waker should be left as is...unless they're going to add more content to it or something...adding the occasional waggle to it is only going to tarnish it D;

Instead give a new Zelda!
One that's is totally different to all the previous ones Smilie

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They got it wrong.... sigh* dont re release the same game make a sequel.. don't cheap out Nintendo!!

C.B said:
They got it wrong.... sigh* dont re release the same game make a sequel.. don't cheap out Nintendo!!

Sales of Jungle Beat, Pikmin and Mario Tennis in Japan so far would say otherwise. All are between 100,000 and 200,000 units so far. Easy money for Nintendo, whilst keeping the fan base happy, whether us stalwart Nintendo fans agree with the idea or not.

The Wii audience consists of more people that did NOT own a GC than did, especially in Japan where the GC died FAR earlier than in the West. Those non-GC owners will not be able to find old GameCube games because Second Hand shops are not as popular in Japan. As for over here, usually the only way to get GC games is via eBay or Amazon's Marketplace...again, not a normal route for the new Wii audience.

Suck it up folks, this isn't aimed primarily at us. If anything appeals to us 'core' gamers, then it's merely a bonus sale for Nintendo.

Adam Riley [ Director :: Cubed3 ]

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am i the only person who thought luigis mansion was a pile of shite? it was too short (6 hours is NOT a game its a joke) and it was way too repetitive

Scorp said:
am i the only person who thought luigis mansion was a pile of shite? it was too short (6 hours is NOT a game its a joke) and it was way too repetitive

Smilie! I really liked it. It took me a decent amount of time to get to the end (not a long game by any means, but I never understood the "This game is far too short" claims.)

The best bit was snagging onto a ghost and moving both the sticks about to start sucking it in whilst the ghost started furiously moving about- really good fun!

I've wanted Luigi's Mansion for ages. Just waiting until it slips below the £15-mark.

Why is 6 hours not a game? Why does something have to be 20, 30, 40 hours+ to be a game?

As a launch title it may not have been the massive Mario 128 people wanted, but it never presented itself as that. Value for money isn't only measured by-the-hour.

Less posty, more gamey.

I'd like sequels more of course, but wind waker was absolutely fantastic. And I loved Luigi's Mansion.

More. More of it. More of it all.

dartmonkey said:
Why is 6 hours not a game? Why does something have to be 20, 30, 40 hours+ to be a game?

As a launch title it may not have been the massive Mario 128 people wanted, but it never presented itself as that. Value for money isn't only measured by-the-hour.


Definitely agree. It served its purpose very well indeed, not pretending to be anything other than a tasty morsel of an adventure.

I'm really surprised it never got a sequel, to be honest. It seemed perfectly suited to the Wii motion controls.

Adam Riley [ Director :: Cubed3 ]

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against my better judgement, i picked a copy of this game up from the market and loaded it up on the wii earlier...suffice to say it feels a lot better the 2nd time round, i guess i just didnt (no pun intended) enter into the spirit of the game, i wouldnt say its my favourite but i'm glad i gave it another chance and revisited it, so thank you to thecheese and dartmonkey for making me realise the error of my ways

I would love a new Luigi's Mansion for Wii. Gamecube game was a blast -- one of the few console games I've gone through several times. Fun fun fun.

yeah luigis mansion is a good game, bit short tho. i remember on the same day i brought the game i completed it twice and took it back for rogue squadron. a sequal should at least be twice as long.

Luigis mansion would be great. Also, maybe an online version of the Zelda 4 swords?

( Edited 23.02.2009 20:37 by Robbo )

Scorp said:
am i the only person who thought luigis mansion was a pile of shite? it was too short (6 hours is NOT a game its a joke) and it was way too repetitive

No, Luigi's Mansion was awesome. End of discussion 8)

Trying to think of a witty signature after 'Hacker-gate'...

I think it would be great if Beyond Good and Evil got a re-release, but maybe that's just me being a fanboy. It was under-appreciated at the time, and maybe it would be a good marketing idea with BG&E2 currently in development.

I will definately buy Luigi\'s Mansion and maybe Mario Sunshine, because the Wii controls for those games would be good and suit the Wii well.

( Edited 24.02.2009 12:28 by Super Sonic )



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Melee with online would be nice lolz
In all honesty I couldn't really care less what they bring out, unless they decide to remake Resident evil 2 and 3 and bring em out for wii Smilie

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Luigi's Mansion revamp would be highest on my list. Love to play that game with nunchuck and remote

I really don\'t want them to go overboard with the NPC! games; I mean already I\'m starting to feel like they\'re using them as an excuse to churn out less hardcore games. With titles like 1080, I\'d love it with balance board, but I want a new 1080 title. Avalanche was tiny, had very limited multiplayer, and took less than a day to finish. Is a new one really too much to ask for?

( Edited 03.03.2009 15:12 by SuperLink )

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