thats exactly what we mean. dont take things to the next level. this is a friendly community, and we'd (ok JB and crew :cry keep it sensible. the PS2 is NOT shit. i used to own one and fair enough i sold it for a GC but it is NOT shit. its just preference. i only sold it because on GC i'd get all the nintendo licensed games (mario etc) plus all the multiformat games as well. please calm down, and get back to the topic at hand, which as you may have all forgotten, is manga/anime!