Are things that happen to people a suitable source for humour? (eg Rape) (Mature)

Now, im genralising here...i dont mean like a specific person, like "Haha you got raped! Loser!" cause thats both harsh and wrong...i mean like jokes in the welcome topic.

Discuss.

Yes. Absolutely anything in the world is. Some people don't realise this but...

Jokes aren't serious!

Megadanxzero said:
Yes. Absolutely anything in the world is. Some people dont realise this but...Jokes arent serious!

If you have someone in your surrounding who had it happened to them it could still be hurtful to make these jokes, even though they are just that; jokes. Most people don't tend to realise it, but even 'harmless' jokes can make people feel miserable.
Make the jokes, but really stop if someone (seriously) requests you to do so

Definitely, if you have never made or laughed at a sexist joke or a racist joke... go outside.

I actually didn't get to see the joke in Wolverines topic, someone care to help me out? PM or something if you can.

EDIT: Shit, left out a word and made myself look like a moron

( Edited on 28.12.2006 01:39 by Kangaroo_Kid )

Kangaroo_Kid said:
Definitely, if you have made or laughed at a sexist joke or a racist joke... go outside.I actually didnt get to see the joke in Wolverines topic, someone care to help me out? PM or something if you can.

Who the fuck ever said that?:p
If it's in response to me, I said make the jokes, but just stop if someone asks you to...>.>

No, it wasn't. You just beat me to the response. I agree with what you say about stopping though.

Kangaroo_Kid said:
No, it wasnt. You just beat me to the response. I agree with what you say about stopping though.

'Mkayzorz
Annoying how easily people can be misunderstood on a forum

It's human instinct. We find things funny that we are scared off : - death, rape, racism, being beaten, disability etc. Most stand up comdedians will go on about these things as they are funny. Many times i have put my foot in it with a group of people. Funny until it happens to you. C'est la vie. If someone asks to stop making certain jokes then i will as will most others. If i know one of my firends has lost a relative then i wont make a joke about that relative out of principle.
Dont really know where this post is going, just thought id give you my personal experience

Depends if its actually funny or not. If you're going to make a rape joke, make it a good one. The thread this one's discussing wasn't very funny, really.

no, I found that thread pretty offensive the first time I read through it. Looking through it now though, it doens't appear so bad... how much have the mods edited it?

I haven't touched it; I think Matt changed the first post.

Well, it all depends. I really have nothing more to add.

My chicken crossed the road and died...please...no one joke about it.

That's...horrible Kin. How will her children cope?

If you can't laugh at yourself then by gum don't make others feel like cunts. We've all known or been close to someone affected by any number of issues that often are the centre of a recent joke but it doesn't mean I'm going to do a fucking stand up comdedy show about how chemotherapy made your aunt's boobs shrivel. There's lines to be made; I've often been thinking of what I'd do if I was a comedian - talking from personal experience is fine and it's how I cope with situations where these things inevitably happen.

There is always a need for sensitivity and reasoning not to mention the circle of peers you may be around with: would your family be impressed with rape jokes at Christmas dinner?

The thing that pisses me off is when people immediately grab the torches and picthforks and rusty spoons and come crashing to the rescue and blow everything out of proportion and become a black hole of 'You insensitive prick' or 'How would YOU like it to happen to YOUR family' when in actual fact, IT FUCKING HAS, using insults in the same sentence as trying to be 'supportive' just does not make sense and in general angst and a growing feeling to start pulling my own teeth.

-Bart- said:
Thats...horrible Kin. How will her children cope?

Its ok, I ate them.

Thank goodness, the only logical solution.

(actually I was afraid you were going to call me an unsensitive bastard because she couldn't lay eggs due to being so ugly she couldn't find a man)

Frazzle.d said:
If you cant laugh at yourself then by gum dont make others feel like cunts. Weve all known or been close to someone affected by any number of issues that often are the centre of a recent joke but it doesnt mean Im going to do a fucking stand up comdedy show about how chemotherapy made your aunts boobs shrivel. Theres lines to be made; Ive often been thinking of what Id do if I was a comedian - talking from personal experience is fine and its how I cope with situations where these things inevitably happen.There is always a need for sensitivity and reasoning not to mention the circle of peers you may be around with: would your family be impressed with rape jokes at Christmas dinner? The thing that pisses me off is when people immediately grab the torches and picthforks and rusty spoons and come crashing to the rescue and blow everything out of proportion and become a black hole of You insensitive prick or How would YOU like it to happen to YOUR family when in actual fact, IT FUCKING HAS, using insults in the same sentence as trying to be supportive just does not make sense and in general angst and a growing feeling to start pulling my own teeth.

Thankyou.

Although the rape jokes at xmas dinner depends on the conversation at the time, the joke itself, the people around the table (they're your own family, you should be able to tell if a) They'll actually know you're joking and b) the sense of humour they have, recent circumstances, etc etc).

Some people just don't have any sense of when to stop, or not to say a joke at all (depending on joke itself and circumstances), so therefore end up going too far. One of the safest bets sometimes is to make the joke about yourself rather than someone else, although there's still a fair amount to consider even then.

You can't always blame people for making 'insensitive' jokes, they don't know you, what you've been through or how personally you will take it - everyone is different, not to mention sometimes people completely misunderstand a joke - I could say (in a similair vein to some jokes i say, as in how it starts off) I was *so and so (in this case, say, black)* once, but then the shoe polish washed off - some say it is racist, saying im making fun of black people, and call me racist, or some may think that and find it funny, essentially taking the joke completely how it wasn't intended - it's making fun of me, and the rather odd/strange idea of the circumstance, etc etc.

If you find a joke personally insensitive or uncaring, don't get the pitchforks etc etc, just state you find it offensive, and would like jokes of that nature to stop in that particular thread, or ignore it - it's a joke, most cases there's no intended malice, and again, they don;y know anything about you - you can't balme them, and you can't ask them to 'be more considerate' in many cases either, as they never know how someone is gonna take it, only hope it's taken with a large pinch of salt.

( Edited on 02.07.2007 22:29 by Slydevil )

Yes it is. If we didn't we wouldn't be able to discuss it without being really awkward.

James said:
Ill make jokes about what I want...then I have no time for them.

As much as I am sure you are a wonderful person, that is a stinky attitude.

If it's jokes that make sony look bad then no they should definitly not be allowed.

As a stand-up comedian, I have to say that no topic should be taboo. The line between offensive and inoffensive can be very blurry and vary by audience.

The talent and skill of the one making the joke is also a factor. A skilled comic can let the audience know with subtle clues that he or she is not serious or that the target somehow gave up his right to fair play.

I have a joke about a blind man on a subway. It is funny, because part of the story is that the bastard has no problem hitting unsuspecting people with his cane and demanding special treatment after he does. Screw that fucker. I hope he enjoys his miserable existence.

If he gave me no reason to ridicule him, the joke would be seen as unfair and bigoted, and it probably would be.

You stick your neck out every time you make a joke. Over sensitive people are likely to jump down your throat, but you can usually tell what truly an attempt at humor and what is unfair if you pay attention.

Martin said:
I havent touched it; I think Matt changed the first post.

I removed *RAPES All* from the topic header.

( Edited on 28.12.2006 08:19 by Matthew Gastrian Evans )

setupweasel said:
The line between offensive and inoffensive can be very blurry and vary by audience.

But for an internet audience, you know, where people (in theory) come from every background and every family situation, extra care should be taken.

Fair enough if one is doing standup in front of a bunch of rambunctious 30 something men, but I don't think that is the general demographic displayed here on C3