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JoshSL 04.06.2007#1

Good to see Chibi-Robo in some of those lists, it really is an unnoticed game Smilie

Pikmin is also amazing, & Viewtiful Joe too. Good stuff Smilie Really hoping to see more from all of those series'

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Raff 04.06.2007#2

Errm.... Viewtiful Joe, Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia all need editing out.

It's going to be shit and you jolly well know it.

The Croft 04.06.2007#3

Grumbler said:
Errm.... Viewtiful Joe, Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia all need editing out.

So does Pikmin.

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Raff 04.06.2007#4

And Animal Crossing.

Alternatively you could just redo the title and intro.

EDIT: oh and def jam

( Edited on 04.06.2007 20:48 by Grumbler )

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The Croft 04.06.2007#5

I think i agree with Mason's the most, but i can't believe Mr.T was the only one to mention Luigi's Mansion

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TAG 04.06.2007#6

There's no Alien Hominid Smilie

Oh well, an otherwise good list.

And I think all of the titles meet the requirements. They were the first of their franchises, and when they first came out, there was no franchise.

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Mr. T 04.06.2007#7

No, they were non-franchised when they came out Smilie I disagreed with Splinter Cell and PoP but what ya gunna do.

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Raff 04.06.2007#8

but none of them are established franchises

It's going to be shit and you jolly well know it.

JoshSL 04.06.2007#9

Basically, they were all new franchises in the 6th gen, & they weren't franchised when they first came out... Nearly half of the games in that list are now franchised, & I'm certain the writers already knew that...

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Slydevil 04.06.2007#10

ChouRinku said:
Basically, they were all new franchises in the 6th gen, & they werent franchised when they first came out... Nearly half of the games in that list are now franchised, & Im certain the writers already knew that...

This, unless I misunderstood the rules.....Hm..Prince of Persia was very borderline, though.

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JoshSL 04.06.2007#11

Prince of Persia was pretty unheard of before 6th gen anyway. That's when it made it's leap to the main leagues. I like Sands of Time a lot, might have to get round to playing the others some day.

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Megadanxzero 04.06.2007#12

Grumbler said:
but none of them are established franchises

Well if they just change that 'are' to 'were' it'll be fine.

3 votes for Second Sight eh? LOVE that game, brilliant work by Free Radical. I say we all bully knighty until he finishes it, since I let him borrow it ages ago and he still hasn't *-_-

I have to agree with Viewtiful Joe, Metal Arms, Splinter Cell, XIII and Beyond Good and Evil, all great new games this-gen. I was kinda disappointed with the fact that what seemed like such an (in some ways) innovative game in Viewtiful Joe (it was pretty basic in others) has now been raped into a franchise which doesn't live up to the first game. I was a bit disappointed with the second one (Especially since they get rif of the original promise of co-op. WHY!?!) and Red Hot Rumble sounds pretty terrible...

It was also kinda disappointing that Beyond Good and Evil didn't get a sequel. And Metal Arms... Both of them ended on sort of cliffhangers too which pisses me off more >_>

Thankfully Splinter Cell, though it's grown into a franchise, has stayed pretty good throughout, though I haven't had a chance to try the newest one yet...

The situation with Prince of Persia I would liken to Metroid Prime. It's the same, but it's pretty different, so you could say it counts as much as you could say it doesn't.

( Edited on 04.06.2007 21:48 by Megadanxzero )

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wishka 04.06.2007#13

So glad to see second sight making repeat entries on your list it was an awsome game. XIII deserved more praise it is easily the second best FPS on gamecube (after timesplitters of course). Prince of persia and BG&E are definatly noteworthy too, in fact with the exception of def jam i agree with the list pretty solidly (especially JT's choices). Not all of the games are to my taste, but they are all awsome in their own way.

MattEvansC3 04.06.2007#14

When I came up with the idea, it was for games that were not part of a franchise when they were released, that meant Viewtiful Joe was allowed in but its sequel wasn't.

I'll be honest in saying I disagree with Splinter Cell as it was established on the Xbox first but I had a hard enough time getting some people to accept that Battalion Wars was a part of the Advance Wars franchise and wasn't allowed on the list.

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Udkedae 05.06.2007#15

Good list!

Smilie I thought Luigi's Mansion had the same concept of Mario is Missing (I think I wrote it right) from the SNES Smilie Looking for Mario...

But I liked them both: one around the world, and one inside a haunted mansion Smilie

NOTE: I had Chibi-Robo, kinda funny and entertaining but still, the worst game I've ever played Smilie

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Darkflame 05.06.2007#16

Prince of Persia and Eternal Darkness very much deserve their place for superb *storytelling*.

Probably the best storytelling that generation in fact.

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Will be forever etched in my brain.
Sands of Time and TTT both had excelent storytelling.

However, POP *is* a franchise!

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"The game deserves to be number one in my list, simply because of the finesse and sheer balls for pulling off what Anouma and the team failed to pull off in Twilight Princess - continuing a lacking genre with true originality"

bullshit.
BG&E was an utterly fantasic game...suppiour to the TWW in fact....but its no more original then TP is.

BG&E takes half is mechcanics from Zelda, and then just nicks elements from Splitercell.

Dont mistake finaly crafted gameplay mechcanics and unrepedative gameplay with "originality".

BG&E was better then TWW because it wasnt dull or boring at any point. It was a shorter, purer game, not stretched.

But the difference between TWW and BG&E is still less then the difference between either of those games and Twlight Princess.

Anouma crafted the Zelda game with the best story, the most diverse gameplay, and some of the downright coolest directing seen in a videogame.

Anouma should be highly praised because he can tell a story and have a wonderfull dark edge when needed.....some miyamoto cant do.
(and in some case's, seems to dislike telling storys at all :-/)
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MattEvansC3 05.06.2007#17

But BG&E had more originality in the setting, characters and plot. Zelda games are often retellings of previous Zelda games

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Udkedae 05.06.2007#18

Matthew Gastrian Evans said:
But BG&E had more originality in the setting, characters and plot. Zelda games are often retellings of previous Zelda games

All of them resembles almost the same story line: Link becomes hero, battle against evil, saves Zelda, bla bla bla...
But still cool and you'll never get bored of it...

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paul_sant2003 05.06.2007#19

In no particular order I think my list of games would be

Killer7
PN03
Giest
Battalion Wars
Sega Soccer Slam

( Edited on 05.06.2007 09:33 by paul_sant2003 )

Phoenom 05.06.2007#20

paul_sant2003 said:
I think there are a couple of games missing from the list. They may not be to everybodys taste but I would have includedKiller7and PN03

Killer7, yes, PNO3, oh god no.

Dr_R 05.06.2007#21

Thanks for that list. A really, really good article. I'll now have to go and try XIII and Chibi-Robo, if I can find them anywhere.

Oh and POP may well be a franchise (anyone who says otherwise didn't see the impact it had in the UK when first released on Mac and Amiga), but Sands of Time is truly one of the best games of the last gen: simple, ingenius, great story, great script, great voice acting, superb gameplay and an absolutely perfect length.

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Phoenom 05.06.2007#22

Dr_R said:
Thanks for that list. A really, really good article. Ill now have to go and try XIII and Chibi-Robo, if I can find them anywhere.Oh and POP may well be a franchise (anyone who says otherwise didnt see the impact it had in the UK when first released on Mac and Amiga), but Sands of Time is truly one of the best games of the last gen: simple, ingenius, great story, great script, great voice acting, superb gameplay and an absolutely perfect length.

Difficult too. An even rarer rarity. Smilie

The Croft 05.06.2007#23

Dr_R said:
Ill now have to go and try Chibi-Robo

You really must, a hidden gem, if there ever was one.

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