Gears of War, Unreal Designer on Wii U

By Jorge Ba-oh 19.09.2012 18

Gears of War, Unreal Designer on Wii U on Nintendo gaming news, videos and discussion

Cliff Bleszinski, designer for Epic Games, recently discussed potential Wii U development - he'll be "watching closely."

Having worked on Gears of War and Epic Games, CliffyB has a solid track record at the studio and when quizzed on Nintendo's upcoming box confessed his love for the Japanese game marker and despite not pledging any projects for Wii U so far, confirmed that he'll see how the system unfolds before making a move.

Being raised on All Things Nintendo I will always I love all things Nintendo. I'll be watching the Wii U closely. I think Nintendo may have initially lost a little of their core with the Wii for a bit, honestly, and they seem to have realized this. I believe they also recognize that we live in a "multi-screen" culture hence the controller design. I played ZombiU at PAX and it was promising (even though the controls could use a little loving!) so we'll have to wait and see.

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JoshSL is offline. JoshSL 19.09.2012#1

Would be great getting Unreal or Epic on board WiiU development in some way, get your foot in that door Nintendo.

Also couldn't help but giggle at this:

Being raised on All Things Nintendo I will always I love all things Nintendo.

Saying that out loud without pausing made me giggle.

One thing that's for sure being raised on all things Nintendo I will always I love all things Nintendo I am I will I gladly Nintendo I have.

( Edited 19.09.2012 21:45 by SuperLink )

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SirLink is offline. SirLink 19.09.2012#2

How many times has he said something along those lines now? If he loves Nintendo this much, it would be nice actually seeing something from Epic on a Nintendo platform. Actions speak louder than words after all.

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Angus is offline. Angus 19.09.2012#3

I watched a section with him on the Gametrailer's show 'Bonus Round'. He praised recent games that avoided the recent norm of developers spoon-feeding you through a game, going so far as to criticise his own games for it, and argued that being lost and getting stuck in a game was a good thing as it increased your sense of achievement when you finally figure something out. I agree with him fully on this, and feel it would be interesting if he used the Wii U to experiment with his ideas.

 
PixelZomblina is offline. PixelZomblina 19.09.2012#4

He's right! A lot of core fans just diminished and gave up when it came to the Wii. I mean, here comes the Wii U, the Wii is at the end of its life, and Skyward Zelda is FINALLY out. And as much as I love my gold remote and the Orchestrated soundtrack, the game wasn't by far that amazing. I'm just upset overall how long it took for this game to be released. Mario and corruption came out faster, and the virtual console was missing a lot of great games. I hope the Wii U makes Nintendo a comeback. I'm not buying the system at launch. I learned my lesson with the 3DS.

 
Vorash Kadan 20.09.2012#5

They're probably waiting to see how well Bayonetta 2, Ninja Gaiden 3, Batman AC, Assassins Creed 3 & Dark Siders 2 do before they'll jump in board. A shame really, usually it's the devs with balls that jump in first & blow us away that are more memorable...most of the time anyway.

Hopefully Epic doesn't ditch Nintendo this time around...that'd be ONE EPIC fail right there!! (ba dum KSH)

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Martin_ is offline. Martin_ 20.09.2012#6

To me this reads "We're waiting to see if core games sell well on the Wii U before we commit to anything substantial".

 
God is offline. God 20.09.2012#7

I have never seen the attraction in this man's games.

You are not alone. I am here with you. Though we're far apart...you're always in my heart. Love u!
 
JoshSL is offline. JoshSL 20.09.2012#8

God said:
I have never seen the attraction in this man's games.

maybe cause the men in them are the opposite of attractive

(badumtss)

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Dan (guest) 20.09.2012#9

Wasnt Epic that said Wii was a virus and they will never make a game for it.... Smilie

God is offline. God 20.09.2012#10

Dan (guest) said:
Wasnt Epic that said Wii was a virus and they will never make a game for it.... Smilie

Actually it was, according to this:

http://www.gamefocus.ca/news/631.html

Not sure how you think it's important - people in companies make statements all the time then change it to something different when more dollars can be obtained. Who cares.

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Martin_ is offline. Martin_ 21.09.2012#11

Also, it was four years ago. In 2008, I can imagine lots of 'core games' developers thought that the Wii was a heap of shit. I know I did.

 
ercbeer (guest) 21.09.2012#12

The problem with the Nintendo/Epic relationship is that Nintendo is all about using Older hardware to create new innovative experiences, on the flip-side, Epic is always on the brink of cutting edge hardware and technology. They are pushing graphics because that is the business they are in with their unreal engine. they want to show off what they can do with it---and it's hard to do that with old hardware. As much as Cliffy loves Nintendo--his business is obviously more important.

Mr James2t3 is offline. Mr James2t3 22.09.2012#13

No Epic games on WiiU then.

( Edited 22.09.2012 04:40 by Mr James2t3 )

 
Martin_ is offline. Martin_ 22.09.2012#14

There'll be UE3 games from Epic licensees, but the question is will there be any UE4 games? Depends on how much more powerful the PS4/Durango are compared to the 'U. If, again, there's a significant gulf in power, then you probably won't be seeing UE4 games.

The Wii U seems like a slightly improved version of PS3/360, much in the same way that the Wii was a slightly improved version of the PS2.

 
God is offline. God 22.09.2012#15

So less options in terms of power and you have to get all 'creative' with a different controller. If I were Cliff Bleszinski, I'd wait till Nintendo offered me a big bag of money before planning anything.
Well different strategies can work obviously. Seems like another 5 years of 'different' third party support for Nintendo then; which they don't really care that much about.

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Martin_ is offline. Martin_ 22.09.2012#16

Well, look at it from Nintendo's point-of-view. Durango is rumoured to have a monumental 16-core CPU paired with one of the latest ATi/whatever they're called now GPUs. The PS4 (less specific) is rumoured to have even more under the hood than this.

Microsoft and Sony have this market to themselves. You already know that, at launch, you'll probably be paying £400 or something for either of the new consoles from these two. Maybe £300 if you're lucky. Even then, MS and Sony will be making losses. However, they know they have the market and audience for that kind of thing.

Nintendo, on the other hand, do not. They started really losing this crowd all the way back with the GameCube. Nothing wrong with the machine itself, and power-wise it sat right between the Xbox and PS2, leaning more towards the Xbox side.

The GC, while profitable, lacked a lot of the kind of games that the then-maturing gaming crowd wanted, in addition to their Nintendo classics. I will always love a good Mario game, but I love a good GTA as well. I'm 26. At the time of the GC launch, I would have been 16. I think I was nearer 18 when I actually bought one.

Anyway, Nintendo let this 'problem' grow and grow. They kept pumping out solid Nintendo games, but that wasn't enough. The third party presence wasn't what the ageing gamer craved, especially when he saw what the other consoles were getting.

All of a sudden, the GC became this weird market where certain types of games did very well, whilst more mature games on GC were totally-outsold by those on competing platforms. The GC then stopped getting these kind of games.

Then comes the Wii, which to this day I think is just a repackaged, overclocked GameCube with new controls. I saw literally almost no difference in graphics. OK, so Twilight Princess has a couple spots on GC where it would drop a few frames, and didn't run in widescreen. Big whoop. Even then, how much is thjat down to Nintendo trying to play up the Wii hardware? I'm sure the GC version could have had widescreen.

But the real issue with Wii is that, aside from certain JRPGs, you really only have Nintendo to look towards for proper games. Even then, we're talking your classic Nintendo wholesomness. Nothing wrong with them, solid Nintendo gameplay, but it isn't enough for a serious gamer in his/her 20s.

Mature games were thin on the ground, and when they did appear they were usually tat like Conduit, which while seen as a godsend on Wii I'm sure, would've been seen as a pile of wank on 360 or PS3, even if the graphics were on par with the best.

Ultimately, Nintendo are in a place where they have secured a whole new market for themselves, but lost a great deal of the old market. They have said that they know this, and that's good.

But really, can they actually dig themselves out of that place and win back the rest of us that they lost? I look at Wii U, and again, I'm seeing nothing to suggest that this isn't basically just current-gen hardware with a new controller.

I could buy a Wii U and get a slightly smoother Batman: Arkham City or whatever, or I could hold out for PS4/Durango which by all accounts are going to be much larger leaps from the current crop than the 'U.

So it's all about waiting and seeing, and obviously the games. ZombiU looks cool, but it's obviously a project resulting from a Nintendo coming to their senses and going "We need a mature game for Wii U! We will pay you this amount, and you will make it!".

One game is not enough, nor is the addition of slightly smoother games I can already get for my PS3/360.

[/rambling]

 
Amlani (guest) 22.09.2012#17

How is shooting people more mature? If anything I'd say it's immature.

God is offline. God 23.09.2012#18

Martin; lovely ramble, and yes it'll work out for them probably. I'd love some Nintendo projects on other consoles. The pure happy, innocent being a kid again feeling is missing on the big consoles, at least the absolutely brilliant way in which Nintendo does this.

Guest;
I don't consider playing games mature at all, so it doesn't matter which game you pick. What people mean by mature games, from what I understand from it, is based on atmosphere and storytelling. Like movies and music, some games really aren't intended for children due to scenes it depicts and uneasy/uncomfortable feelings it produces and morals you don't want to learn your child about yet(even though they are very real in our world).
Killing someone (brutally) over petty things is not maturity, but who enjoys these things in a (game) setting? Who do you want to see playing that? Taking drugs might also not be a very mature thing to do - but leave it to the adults. Childhood is over soon enough.

There is nothing offensive about saying a game is for kids or adults. I sometimes get the idea from game fans that as soon as you call games like pokemon, mario and kirby typical kid games, you have somehow belittled either the games or them(sometimes followed by a sarcastic remark on how war game is boring because it doesn't have bright colours/looks like real life and there is nothing to be happy about in it). Which is nonsense. Aaaaaand now I'm hungry haha

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