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Darkflame 16.06.2010#1

Mostly good stuff, allthough the camera resolution is disappointing.

I notice a Home button there too.

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Lynk 16.06.2010#2

Not really liking the design of this. I may wait for the redesign. This looks halfway between the DSi and the original Phat...

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meeto_0 16.06.2010#3

I thought the top screen would be bigger. Although mock ups of such a thing made for awkward proportions it would have been interesting.

GreythaGreat 16.06.2010#4

I am really impressed so far. When Nintendo brought out those ladies to show the 3DS my jaw dropped. Nintendo?! Really?! And the girls kept coming out! Hahahaha!

I'm glad the direction their going in - but I am disappointed with the wifi. I was hoping it would be able to pick up internet connection almost anywhere like the smart phones.

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Ikana 16.06.2010#5

To be honest the more I think about it, the more disappointed I am. :/ I wanted the graphics to be better, with higher resolution. I wanted more than VGA cameras (thought the 3Dness is cool) and the system looks the same as the DSi at first glance. Whether I get this at launch is gonna heavily depend on the launch titles. Nintedogs+Cats will probably be cool, but I'll need more than that.

Marzeee 16.06.2010#6

Looks super ugly! but the line-up is out of this world! there's tons of fantastic titles heading to it.

I may have to consider getting one on launch, depending on when some of those games come out for the system.

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L (guest) 16.06.2010#7

The design will most likely change, just like the original DS deign.
I'm pretty excited about it though.

kbaker2002de 16.06.2010#8

According to NeoGaf launch titles will also include Star Fox 64 3DS, Pilotwings 3DS, Spinter Cell Chaos Theory 3DS...

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J4K 16.06.2010#9

Have you guys seen the game list? Even if the system shipped covered in cow dung I'd have to consider buying it. It has more brand name games already in development than any other console launch I've seen.

TAG 16.06.2010#10

I wish it had a second analog stick. I've been playing Dreamcast lately. While it's been fun, it's been hard to go back to just having one analog stick. I'm used to having a lot of control over the camera now.

One analog stick is better than none, though. And I'm not sure how comfortable having two analog sticks would be on the small 3DS where space is important and limited (as opposed to a controller that doesn't have to worry about a screen or fitting in your pocket).

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Daniel Read (guest) 16.06.2010#11

In terms of size it looks about the same as the dsi, it looks fatter, but using the 3.5mm headphone port as a reference the base looks the same size, the screen unsurprisingly thicker (as its 3D!) i think the dual colours just make it look thicker!

Ikana 16.06.2010#12

Jacob4000 said:
Have you guys seen the game list? Even if the system shipped covered in cow dung I'd have to consider buying it. It has more brand name games already in development than any other console launch I've seen.

Very true, looking over that list has definitely boosted my excitement for it by a lot. Smilie

Phoenom 16.06.2010#13

I'm really surprised how superior in design the first iteration of the 3DS is over the original DS, makes me think that'll be the launch version. - Not that I'm complaining, it looks great. Smilie

HazukiSan 16.06.2010#14

Marzy said:
Looks super ugly! but the line-up is out of this world! there's tons of fantastic titles heading to it.
I may have to consider getting one on launch, depending on when some of those games come out for the system.

Hmm, actually there's a lot of fantastic franchises heading for it. Game quality is unknown at this stage.

Console is ugly as, bottom is too crowded with the home, select etc and only having one analogue stick is useless. D-Pad is in a funny place too.

I just don't see why 3d is needed, what does it add to the gameplay? It'll be a novel thing, showing people and getting an ooh and an aah before you put the slider right down so you don't have to sit in the sweet spot so it works.

Mark me down as unconvinced.

JoshSL 16.06.2010#15

HazukiSan said:
I just don't see why 3d is needed, what does it add to the gameplay? It'll be a novel thing, showing people and getting an ooh and an aah before you put the slider right down so you don't have to sit in the sweet spot so it works.

I don't see why improved graphics for anything are needed, what does it add to the gameplay? Nothing at all, but it makes games look nicer. I highly doubt the sweet spot will be that hard to achieve by the time the system is released. 3D is new, and apparently it works brilliantly.

Mark me down as unconvinced.

You've always been a pessimist. Smilie

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HazukiSan 17.06.2010#16

SuperLink said:
HazukiSan said:
I just don't see why 3d is needed, what does it add to the gameplay? It'll be a novel thing, showing people and getting an ooh and an aah before you put the slider right down so you don't have to sit in the sweet spot so it works.

I don't see why improved graphics for anything are needed, what does it add to the gameplay? Nothing at all, but it makes games look nicer. I highly doubt the sweet spot will be that hard to achieve by the time the system is released. 3D is new, and apparently it works brilliantly.
Mark me down as unconvinced.
You've always been a pessimist.

Improved graphics go hand in hand with other improvements allowing for better AI, larger areas more complex gameplay in general. Improved graphics can have an effect though thanks to extra detail possibly opening up different styles of gameplay. A dev will not want to zoom in extensively for example if the textures aren't up to scratch.

The issue I have with the 3d on the DS is this. Small range within which it works and on the floor people are saying it's not flawless at all in it's implementation. Granted it's early and it'll take a while for developers and users to get used to it but for a handheld consoles big selling power to be so dependent on being in a certain position seems like an issue. Secondly that is ugly enough and unrefined enough for me to know that within 2 years of launch the 3DSi will launch, whoever put the puttons below the touch screen needs shot. Finally more powerful graphics puts this as a 3d handheld console in terms of the games in provides too and having no second stick to control camera marks this one out as being tough to use.

I think I'm inspired to do a blog on the thing actually!

JoshSL 17.06.2010#17

for a handheld consoles big selling power to be so dependent on being in a certain position seems like an issue.

But this doesn't really mean much considering you haven't used it yourself. "Certain position" could mean anything from "DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU DON'T MOVE OR IT WON'T WORK" or "if you look at the system from the side it'll look a bit shitty"

I know you can say 3D is pointless for a gaming system, and it may be a gimmick, but this is on top of the touch screen and updated graphics people love already. What's the immediate problem with 3D, especially if people end up loving it?

Tons of things about games are "pointless", but we have them anyway because they're nice and they make things more enjoyable in certain ways.

Would you say 3D films are pointless too?

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PK Mongoose 17.06.2010#18

No GBA slot, yet still worth the buy!

Not trading in my DSL, though.

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HazukiSan 17.06.2010#19

SuperLink said:
for a handheld consoles big selling power to be so dependent on being in a certain position seems like an issue.

But this doesn't really mean much considering you haven't used it yourself. "Certain position" could mean anything from "DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU DON'T MOVE OR IT WON'T WORK" or "if you look at the system from the side it'll look a bit shitty"
I know you can say 3D is pointless for a gaming system, and it may be a gimmick, but this is on top of the touch screen and updated graphics people love already. What's the immediate problem with 3D, especially if people end up loving it?
Tons of things about games are "pointless", but we have them anyway because they're nice and they make things more enjoyable in certain ways.
Would you say 3D films are pointless too?

First up granted I've not used it and if the range is fantastic then I'm happy but early reports I've read suggest that it's temperamental. Now that may be under E3 conditions and again I'll retract if it's not the case. Still a worry and grounds to be cautious I think.

My issue is that no feature just "goes in". It costs money and it being in the 3DS means every game will have developers, artists and money spent to make it work in 3D which I feel is resources better spent elsewhere. It's the same argument I use for the PS3, I'd rather you spend that cash on hiring better script writers and voice actors for example than 3D. Also it drops resolution, makes everything a little fuzzier and I dunno about you but a nice sharp display is what I want. I want to see those improved graphics in all their glory not downgraded for the sake of making it pop out at me.

3D films are a different argument. I see them as largely gimmicky but that gimmick is getting people back into cinemas. Cinema's have a different challenge and 3D is perfect to help them fight those challenges. Handheld consoles don't have that issue of losing relevance in gaming. If anything with iPhone expanding the market it's more relevant than ever and a gimmick just seems superfluous and wrong to build a console around.

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[quote][b]SuperLink said:[/b]<br/>[quote]for a handheld consoles big selling power to be so dependent on being in a certain position seems like an issue. [/quote]
But this doesn't really mean much considering you haven't used it yourself. "Certain position" could mean anything from "DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU DON'T MOVE OR IT WON'T WORK" or "if you look at the system from the side it'll look a bit shitty"

I know you can say 3D is pointless for a gaming system, and it may be a gimmick, but this is on top of the touch screen and updated graphics people love already. What's the immediate [i]problem[/i] with 3D, especially if people end up loving it?

Tons of things about games are "pointless", but we have them anyway because they're nice and they make things more enjoyable in certain ways.

Would you say 3D films are pointless too?[/quote]

First up granted I've not used it and if the range is fantastic then I'm happy but early reports I've read suggest that it's temperamental. Now that may be under E3 conditions and again I'll retract if it's not the case. Still a worry and grounds to be cautious I think.

My issue is that no feature just "goes in". It costs money and it being in the 3DS means every game will have developers, artists and money spent to make it work in 3D which I feel is resources better spent elsewhere. It's the same argument I use for the PS3, I'd rather you spend that cash on hiring better script writers and voice actors for example than 3D. Also it drops resolution, makes everything a little fuzzier and I dunno about you but a nice sharp display is what I want. I want to see those improved graphics in all their glory not downgraded for the sake of making it pop out at me.

3D films are a different argument. I see them as largely gimmicky but that gimmick is getting people back into cinemas. Cinema's have a different challenge and 3D is perfect to help them fight those challenges. Handheld consoles don't have that issue of losing relevance in gaming. If anything with iPhone expanding the market it's more relevant than ever and a gimmick just seems superfluous and wrong to build a console around.

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JoshSL 17.06.2010#20

HazukiSan said:
My issue is that no feature just "goes in". It costs money and it being in the 3DS means every game will have developers, artists and money spent to make it work in 3D which I feel is resources better spent elsewhere. It's the same argument I use for the PS3, I'd rather you spend that cash on hiring better script writers and voice actors for example than 3D. Also it drops resolution, makes everything a little fuzzier and I dunno about you but a nice sharp display is what I want. I want to see those improved graphics in all their glory not downgraded for the sake of making it pop out at me.

The 3DS' launch period third party support is better than the grand majority of modern console released. From that I would assume the 3D effects really couldn't be that hard to create, and not truly detract from the rest of the game in any way. The 3DS has always showcased some visually amazing games, and the slide pad is supposed to work very well.

Basically I don't think the 3D will detract from the experience or development in anyway. I'm assuming it's far easier to develop for than the PS3, whose support has really only skyrocketed this year (and it's actually really good now)

3D films are a different argument. I see them as largely gimmicky but that gimmick is getting people back into cinemas. Cinema's have a different challenge and 3D is perfect to help them fight those challenges. Handheld consoles don't have that issue of losing relevance in gaming. If anything with iPhone expanding the market it's more relevant than ever and a gimmick just seems superfluous and wrong to build a console around.

The casual audience loves that gimmick though, I imagine it might appeal to them really well in the same way that 3D has resurged cinema popularity. Nintendo need some kind of hold over iPods and such, it's still a very competitive market, and without new ideas and gimmicks things will just get stagnant or one sided.

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[quote][b]HazukiSan said:[/b]<br/>My issue is that no feature just "goes in". It costs money and it being in the 3DS means every game will have developers, artists and money spent to make it work in 3D which I feel is resources better spent elsewhere. It's the same argument I use for the PS3, I'd rather you spend that cash on hiring better script writers and voice actors for example than 3D. Also it drops resolution, makes everything a little fuzzier and I dunno about you but a nice sharp display is what I want. I want to see those improved graphics in all their glory not downgraded for the sake of making it pop out at me.[/quote]
The 3DS' launch period third party support is better than the grand majority of modern console released. From that I would assume the 3D effects really couldn't be that hard to create, and not truly detract from the rest of the game in any way. The 3DS has always showcased some visually amazing games, and the slide pad is supposed to work very well.

Basically I don't think the 3D will detract from the experience or development in anyway. I'm assuming it's far easier to develop for than the PS3, whose support has really only skyrocketed this year (and it's actually really good now)

[quote]3D films are a different argument. I see them as largely gimmicky but that gimmick is getting people back into cinemas. Cinema's have a different challenge and 3D is perfect to help them fight those challenges. Handheld consoles don't have that issue of losing relevance in gaming. If anything with iPhone expanding the market it's more relevant than ever and a gimmick just seems superfluous and wrong to build a console around.[/quote]The casual audience loves that gimmick though, I imagine it might appeal to them really well in the same way that 3D has resurged cinema popularity. Nintendo need some kind of hold over iPods and such, it's still a very competitive market, and without new ideas and gimmicks things will just get stagnant or one sided.

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HazukiSan 17.06.2010#21

Basically I don't think the 3D will detract from the experience or development in anyway. I'm assuming it's far easier to develop for than the PS3, whose support has really only skyrocketed this year (and it's actually really good now)

This is where we differ then, all I see when I see a 3D pop-up in a game is money being needlessly lost to a visual style that's being forced on us by James Cameron, Sony and now Nintendo Smilie It might be the leverage that Nintendo need over Apple but I just don't see it working. Maybe for a Christmas but long term?

JoshSL 17.06.2010#22

HazukiSan said:
This is where we differ then, all I see when I see a 3D pop-up in a game is money being needlessly lost to a visual style that's being forced on us by James Cameron, Sony and now Nintendo It might be the leverage that Nintendo need over Apple but I just don't see it working. Maybe for a Christmas but long term?

People are eating up James Cameron's 3D stuff, I love it too, so why the hell not? This thing is going to be hugely successful to that audience.
As for working long term, it's an optional feature, and if it looks nice, well then why wouldn't I have it on all the time? I'm certain there will be games coming along taking full advantage of the gimmick too, like Warioware, and I'm sure Paper Mario will.

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MasterJJS 17.06.2010#23

I have no experience using a DS or anything of the sort, but I think it is amazing how they did this. Smilie

'tendo 17.06.2010#24

so far one of my favorite articles yet, and the comment content as well.

but i feel it's very short ended of any of us to call the 3DS a gimmick before we even see how it performs, once offically available to all of us.

i mean, openly and/or secretly many of us "pro nintendo", and many more "non nintendo" had doubts regarding the direction of the GBA line successor and the GameCube hopeful saviour follow-up.

both consoles (DS and WII) still exist today. Though maybe the DS gameplay acceptance is a bit more than the Wii squad. But once upon a time, many thought that "touch screen" and "motion control" were just gimmicks.

If anything, Sony's 6 axis was a gimmick, as was Eye Toy, GB Camera and GB Printer...heck throw in the E-Reader, where the real benefactor of that device was really Animal Crossing Cube! I'm pretty sure they are more, but this is far disassociated to the 3DS(of course disregarding Virtual Boy...gimmick in the past)

Graphically, from a portable stand point, I think the 3DS is on point. All of Nintendo's portables have followed the graphical generation of it's home system era.

GB was to NES
GBA was to SNES
DS was to N64
3DS...I would say just based on screens, Cube to Wii. (Even though some other sites have said it's Wii and on, or even Xbox 360/PS3)

I think it's a proper time to explore 3D, since it resurfaced again (but HD) in movies. I think the main thing is, will everbody be on board.

It would be, if made available for everyone. If 3DS proves successful, I'm pretty sure somebody will try to mimmick the idea/concept to allow for a TV to produce 3D without the use of goggles. Because that's the main obstacle right now for 3D tv's. Not everybody will be able to buy more than 1 - 2 goggles, thus, not everybody will be experience the 3D effect in a home that has a 3D tv.

I personally think 3D for cinema use should soley stay at theatres, because I agree that it is just a novelty, and for that reason, should stay in theatres.

But for games...I think it can do to games what the DS has done. And games just come out at a high frequency, the 3D experience depending on a game would be different. FPS 3D, Puzzle 3D, Simulation 3D, Sports/Fighting/etc etc.

I just hope in the Wii's successor, Nintendo decides to jump back on graphical importance as much as innovation.

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so far one of my favorite articles yet, and the comment content as well.

but i feel it's very short ended of any of us to call the 3DS a gimmick before we even see how it performs, once offically available to all of us.

i mean, openly and/or secretly many of us "pro nintendo", and many more "non nintendo" had doubts regarding the direction of the GBA line successor and the GameCube hopeful saviour follow-up.

both consoles (DS and WII) still exist today.  Though maybe the DS gameplay acceptance is a bit more than the Wii squad.  But once upon a time, many thought that "touch screen" and "motion control" were just gimmicks.

If anything, Sony's 6 axis was a gimmick, as was Eye Toy, GB Camera and GB Printer...heck throw in the E-Reader, where the real benefactor of that device was really Animal Crossing Cube!  I'm pretty sure they are more, but this is far disassociated to the 3DS(of course disregarding Virtual Boy...gimmick in the past)

Graphically, from a portable stand point, I think the 3DS is on point.  All of Nintendo's portables have followed the graphical generation of it's home system era.

GB was to NES
GBA was to SNES
DS was to N64
3DS...I would say just based on screens, Cube to Wii.  (Even though some other sites have said it's Wii and on, or even Xbox 360/PS3)

I think it's a proper time to explore 3D, since it resurfaced again (but HD) in movies.  I think the main thing is, will everbody be on board.

It would be, if made available for everyone.  If 3DS proves successful, I'm pretty sure somebody will try to mimmick the idea/concept to allow for a TV to produce 3D without the use of goggles.  Because that's the main obstacle right now for 3D tv's.  Not everybody will be able to buy more than 1 - 2 goggles, thus, not everybody will be experience the 3D effect in a home that has a 3D tv.

I personally think 3D for cinema use should soley stay at theatres, because I agree that it is just a novelty, and for that reason, should stay in theatres.

But for games...I think it can do to games what the DS has done.  And games just come out at a high frequency, the 3D experience depending on a game would be different.  FPS 3D, Puzzle 3D, Simulation 3D, Sports/Fighting/etc etc.

I just hope in the Wii's successor, Nintendo decides to jump back on graphical importance as much as innovation.

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Laurelin 17.06.2010#25

I like the design, it looks good. And the colouring may stay that way, too. I love it being blue and not white.

And the lineup is great! I want to buy this thingy!

What surprises me is the acting capability of both Miyamoto-san and Iwata-san! They should consider making more trailers! Fils-Aime sucked, thou... *lol*

oh: please add metric measurements to your specs, as Europe and almost all the rest of the 'Old World' has no idea whatsoever how much 1 lb or 1 ounce is. And I don't want to check measurement calculators, too. But aside from that: great summary of 3DS's capability and specs.
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